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  • Cory Roeseler
    wake up with a bad hangover, Don? For efficient upwind performance, perhaps we should all re-visit hydrofoils. Troy Navarro, the first Kitesurfer on Maui,
    Message 1 of 34 , Sep 30 9:20 AM
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      'wake up with a bad hangover, Don?

      For efficient upwind performance, perhaps we should all re-visit hydrofoils.
      Troy Navarro, the first Kitesurfer on Maui, fastened an Air Chair foil to a
      wakeboard in the '80s. Since then, I've been playing with standard Air
      Chairs. The bursts of upwind speed are so tempting...

      Cory

      -----Original Message-----
      From: don montague <donm@...>
      To: kitesurf@egroups.com <kitesurf@egroups.com>
      Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 10:56 PM
      Subject: [ksurf] Re: RE: [effieceny] Helium in Wipika


      >I have getting this bullshit about helium, can't you guys move on to
      >something we really need
      >like upwind ability, foil sections, new manouvers, or new materials ...you
      >guys that are talking this shit do you actually
      >kitesurf or even plan to.............
      >
      >aloha don
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: Bruno Legaignoux [mailto:wipika@...]
      >Sent: Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:48 PM
      >To: kitesurf@egroups.com
      >Subject: [ksurf] Re: Helium in Wipika
      >
      >
      >Pierce Nichols wrote:
      >
      >> Try burning ripstop. It doesn't burn that fast. More like
      smolders
      >> and melts. And stinks.
      >
      >Same for nylon pantihoses and other synthetic fabrics. But you know the
      kind
      >of
      >effect they produce on the skin when they melt.
      >
      >Please don't misunderstand my first reply. Sure that hydrogen can be used
      by
      >serious
      >people taking the required precautions.
      >But imagine if helium would become a usual gas to inflate wings, then some
      >people
      >would use hydrogen because cheaper and lighter...and the accidents would
      >arrive.
      >
      >> I'm surprised that the ash remained hot for long enough in the wind.
      >
      >It's common on spinnakers too. I was a sail instructor for 7 years and
      often
      >saw
      >this kind of specific holes. But for sure more people smoke in France than
      >USA. You
      >can test it easily !
      >
      >> > Really I think the risk is very high.
      >>
      >> Why? How much experience do you have handling hydrogen?
      >
      >No experience. Just the Hindenburg in mind.
      >
      >Best winds
      >Bruno
      >
      >
      >
      >
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    • Cory Roeseler
      wake up with a bad hangover, Don? For efficient upwind performance, perhaps we should all re-visit hydrofoils. Troy Navarro, the first Kitesurfer on Maui,
      Message 34 of 34 , Sep 30 9:20 AM
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        'wake up with a bad hangover, Don?

        For efficient upwind performance, perhaps we should all re-visit hydrofoils.
        Troy Navarro, the first Kitesurfer on Maui, fastened an Air Chair foil to a
        wakeboard in the '80s. Since then, I've been playing with standard Air
        Chairs. The bursts of upwind speed are so tempting...

        Cory

        -----Original Message-----
        From: don montague <donm@...>
        To: kitesurf@egroups.com <kitesurf@egroups.com>
        Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 10:56 PM
        Subject: [ksurf] Re: RE: [effieceny] Helium in Wipika


        >I have getting this bullshit about helium, can't you guys move on to
        >something we really need
        >like upwind ability, foil sections, new manouvers, or new materials ...you
        >guys that are talking this shit do you actually
        >kitesurf or even plan to.............
        >
        >aloha don
        >-----Original Message-----
        >From: Bruno Legaignoux [mailto:wipika@...]
        >Sent: Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:48 PM
        >To: kitesurf@egroups.com
        >Subject: [ksurf] Re: Helium in Wipika
        >
        >
        >Pierce Nichols wrote:
        >
        >> Try burning ripstop. It doesn't burn that fast. More like
        smolders
        >> and melts. And stinks.
        >
        >Same for nylon pantihoses and other synthetic fabrics. But you know the
        kind
        >of
        >effect they produce on the skin when they melt.
        >
        >Please don't misunderstand my first reply. Sure that hydrogen can be used
        by
        >serious
        >people taking the required precautions.
        >But imagine if helium would become a usual gas to inflate wings, then some
        >people
        >would use hydrogen because cheaper and lighter...and the accidents would
        >arrive.
        >
        >> I'm surprised that the ash remained hot for long enough in the wind.
        >
        >It's common on spinnakers too. I was a sail instructor for 7 years and
        often
        >saw
        >this kind of specific holes. But for sure more people smoke in France than
        >USA. You
        >can test it easily !
        >
        >> > Really I think the risk is very high.
        >>
        >> Why? How much experience do you have handling hydrogen?
        >
        >No experience. Just the Hindenburg in mind.
        >
        >Best winds
        >Bruno
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >______________________________________________________________________
        >
        >Subscribe, unsubscribe, opt for a daily digest, or start a new e-group
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        >
        >
        >______________________________________________________________________
        >
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        >


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