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Re: Drift Launch (was Re: [ksurf] Re: Foils and gusty wind myth!)

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  • Roland Andrag
    Thanks for the two long explanations - much appreciated! Roland ... From: To: Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001
    Message 1 of 4 , Jul 4, 2001
      Thanks for the two long explanations - much appreciated!

      Roland
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <kitesurfmn@...>
      To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 9:26 PM
      Subject: Drift Launch (was Re: [ksurf] Re: Foils and gusty wind myth!)


      > My Drift launch method is pretty much as decribed below. I have found
      > that it also works to set the kit down LE into the wind while
      > unwinding as the kite drifts away. The kite will not usually spin
      > until it reaches the end of the lines with some tension.
      >
      > I have had 100% success drift launching, but others in my area have
      > had problems. All problems that I have seen relate to line tangles. I
      > only use q-power lines, which seem to eliminate this issue.
      >
      > Matt
      >
      > --- In kitesurf@y..., dixon76710@y... wrote:
      > > Hopefully Matt or others with more expertise will reply, but I had
      > to
      > > learn to deal with this on an inland lake with the choice of trees
      > or
      > > water for a launch area.
      > > I use a longhorn, slide up the leader type bar with a wrist leash
      > > that can be clipped to either side. Our lake has several points or
      > > peninsulas that stick out into a basically side shore wind.If the
      > > wind is coming from the right I use my leash on the right side
      > (could
      > > also just wind the lines as if you had a right hand leash).I
      > > carefully wind my right front and rear leaders(full kite span
      > length)
      > > and half hitch securely to bar. Gather all four lines and wind the
      > > rest of the way and half hitch. From the down wind side of the
      > point
      > > I let my kite drift out,preferably just behind the wind line
      > > sheltered by the point. Hopefully it ends up on its side, headed
      > out
      > > the direction I need, 90%, sometimes it gets onto the leading edge.
      > > Either way I unwind to the first halfhitch, undo and quickly undo
      > > last few wraps of right leader and quickly again tension right side
      > > or never let off the tension. This is all pretty easy when in the
      > > area sheltered from the direct wind and you can unwind faster than
      > > the kite drifts. If it does get onto the leading edge I water start
      > > as after a crash, sometimes I can stay on land until the kites in
      > the
      > > air, sometimes the amount of pull and lack of footing in the mud
      > > pulls me into deeper water.
      > > I have done this directly in the wind from back of a boat however
      > if
      > > your wraps are wrong or you dont maintain even rate of unwrapping
      > on
      > > all four lines or you slip and drop the bar or, or, or, you can end
      > > up with a powered up kite and no way to controll. Only happened
      > once,
      > > had to release a tangled mess of half unwound lines that happened
      > to
      > > snag in a perfect position for full power. Ever since then I
      > usually
      > > redo my line wraps from previous session before start and get in
      > area
      > > sheltered from the full force of the wind. In some wind it is
      > easier
      > > to keep the kite on its side as it drifts out,completely sheltered
      > it
      > > will go onto the leading edge and then you need to get it back into
      > > the wind in order to flip it on its back.
      > > Had same problem as Matt with my foil kites, needed clear land to
      > > yank the kite into the air and hope it inflates before it crashes
      > > from lack of control and couldnt use the drift method without kite
      > > being inflated. Now have a dirt devil plug into the cigarrette
      > > lighter mini car vaccum with a wipika strut bladder duct taped in
      > > place of the regular bag. Cut off the tip of the bladder and can
      > > insert it into the vent of my 12 m flysurfer and inlate in 1
      > minute.
      > > Drift launch described above is even easier with my foils compared
      > to
      > > AR5s. Kite stays on its trailing edge with the back lines tensioned
      > > until ready to be launched. M. Elliott
      > >
      > > --- In kitesurf@y..., "Roland Andrag" <randrag@i...> wrote:
      > > > Matt, can you describe the procedure you use to drift launch your
      > > > inflatables these days?
      > > >
      > > > Thanks
      > > >
      > > > Roland
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: <kitesurfmn@y...>
      > > > To: <kitesurf@y...>
      > > > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:43 AM
      > > > Subject: [ksurf] Re: Foils and gusty wind myth!
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > > I am the guy that Hung bought the 4.9 New wave from. I think
      > foils
      > > > > work great even in gusty wind. The reason that I sold my foils
      > is
      > > > > specific to lake kiters and I don't think it has ever been
      > > discussed
      > > > > on this group.
      > > > >
      > > > > The midwestern lakes where I ride have very small launching
      > areas
      > > and
      > > > > curvey irregular shorlines. Each lake has only one or two access
      > > > > areas, so finding a side-on wind is a stroke of luck. Many days
      > I
      > > > > would stand in the water with my foil laying on shore waiting
      > and
      > > > > waiting and waiting for a gust to make its way to the shore so
      > > that I
      > > > > could get the kite inflated for launch. Then when a gust would
      > > come
      > > > > in, the kite would inflate part way, the puff of wind would be
      > > gone,
      > > > > and the underinflated kite would colapse and fall in the water.
      > > Death
      > > > > for a foil. Winds near shore are also very turbulent.
      > > > >
      > > > > This year after lots of rain, even our small launch areas are
      > > gone,
      > > > > underwater. If it were not for my new ability to drift launch my
      > > > > inflatables, I don't know if I would be able to ride at all.
      > > > >
      > > > > When I was able to launch my foils, they worked fine. it is
      > just
      > > so
      > > > > much easier not to half to deal with them in my area.
      > > > >
      > > > > Horses for courses.
      > > > > Matt
      >
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