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RE: [ksurf] Re: range airblast 11,8

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  • Lemke, Mike
    Yes...I m useing a 21 bar with the 6.3......I was just curious if that same bar could be used on the 11.8 with the bridles. I ve never flown the 11.8
    Message 1 of 15 , May 1, 2001
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      Yes...I'm useing a 21" bar with the 6.3......I was just curious if that
      same bar could be used on the 11.8 with the bridles. I've never flown the
      11.8

      Thanks...M

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Peter Frank
      To: kitesurf@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: 5/1/01 2:02 AM
      Subject: [ksurf] Re: range airblast 11,8

      Actually I don't think the bridles are contributing to the fast
      turning capabilities of the Airblast. It's in the design !
      So you can remove the bridles without losing turning power (maybe
      you'll actually increase the responsiveness instead).
      The difference will be, that you have to work a lot harder on the
      bar, when sinusing - because there are no "pulley 2-1" system no more.

      I am pretty sure that a 24 inch bar for the 6.3 is too much - I use
      the short one delivered with the kite, and I don't want it to be more
      lively !

      Maybe someone has gained even more experience of the difference
      between bridles and no bridles regarding responsiveness, and will
      share the information ?

      Peter Frank, DK.


      --- In kitesurf@y..., "Lemke, Mike" <mike@l...> wrote:
      > If the Airblast bridle results in faster turning, and it is
      unnecessary on
      > their smaller kites, can you leave the bridles on the 11.8, take
      them off of
      > a 6.4 and use the same bar? Say....24 inches?
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: victor1@m...
      > To: kitesurf@y...
      > Sent: 4/27/01 12:43 PM
      > Subject: [ksurf] Re: range airblast 11,8
      >
      > Cut thoes puppies off! The 11.8 is still super responsive, and not
      > hard to relaunch (just tug the front lines a bit harder when nose
      > down).
      >
      > The second time I rigged my 11.8, the bridles tangled into
      dreadlocks
      > within 20 second of flipping the kite after pumping. It took 20
      min.
      > to get sorted and on the water. After cutting off, I liked the kite
      > even more - no "soggy" feel when I turn on the power, and I really
      > prefer that direct feel when jumping... (This is an equally good
      > improvement to the 8.4)
      >
      > _Victor
      >
      >
      > --- In kitesurf@y..., kitesrfer@a... wrote:
      > > Hello Jeffro,
      > >
      > > My bridle lines strum into hopeless knots with each other if the
      > wind is 15
      > > mph or better, making it unflyable. I setup the kite up twice
      over
      > the last
      > > week or so and ended up tearing it down after the lines
      practically
      > braided
      > > together and rigged my 9.5 m in frustration. Am I the only one
      > experiencing
      > > this problem? I replaced the lines with SuperQ lines which
      > hopefully will
      > > eliminate the problem.
      > >
      > > Good winds,
      > > Rick
      > >
      > > << I would leave the bridle on the kite. The easier the turning,
      > the
      > > better for riding as you wont get as tired, and the kite is more
      > > responsive. I dont see why people are taking the bridles off
      the
      > > 11.8...doesnt make sense.
      > >
      > > Jeffro
      > >
      > > --- In kitesurf@y..., Eric Wynne <ericw@a...> wrote:
      > > > <flying the airblast you must be in the trim loop all the time>
      > > >
      > > > Why is it you need to be in the trim loop all the time. Also
      > have
      > > you tried
      > > > the Airblast without the bridle.
      > > > Thanks
      > > > Eric
      > > > deejay@z... wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > G'Day Uipko,
      > > > >
      > > > > The range of the Wipi 11.8 Airblast when rigged properly is
      as
      > > > > follows:
      > > > >
      > > > > Will fly in 3-4 knots (just)
      > > > >
      > > > > Will relaunch backwards in 5-6 knots
      > > > >
      > > > > Can kitesurf on 205cm directional board in 6 knots (holding
      > ground
      > > > > upwind)
      > > > > Can jump in 8 knots
      > > > >
      > > > > Upper wind range for moderately experienced persons 16 knots.
      > > > >
      > > > > Upper end wind range, depending upon your weight (I am 80kg)
      > when
      > > > > using wake style board of around 150-160cm 20-22 knots.
      > > > > When flying in this much wind you require a high degree of
      > skill
      > > and
      > > > > technique.
      > > > >
      > > > > The Airblast turns and flies a little faster than the
      > equivalent
      > > size
      > > > > AR5, is a lot more "rigid" in flight and develops more
      power.
      > The
      > > > > Airblast is also MUCH easier to relaunch in all wind
      > conditions.
      > > > >
      > > > > Flying the Airblast is different to the AR5 because you must
      > be
      > in
      > > > > the trim loop all of the time. If you can fly the airblast
      > you
      > > can
      > > > > easily fly the AR5. The Airblast is easier but slightly more
      > > > > technical to fly than the AR5.
      > > > >
      > > > > Having said that, depending upon your skill level, you won't
      > have
      > > any
      > > > > problems flying the Airblast and changing back to your 9.5.
      > > > >
      > > > > I fly the 11.8, 8.4 and 6.3 Airblast which gives me a range
      of
      > > around
      > > > > 6 knots to 35+ knots.(Haven't been fully overpowered on the
      > 6.3
      > to
      > > > > give an accurate top end)
      > > > >
      > > > > Hope this helps,
      > > > >
      > > > > Best Winds and Peace,
      > > > >
      > > > > Deejay
      > > > > >>
      >
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