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Re: Locked out of Iwindsurf.com!

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  • vernw@mauigateway.com
    Well said Dave! Vern ... communication ... world ... over ... want ... They ... way, ... likely ... net. ... can
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      Well said Dave!

      Vern


      --- In kitesurf@egroups.com, Dave Culp <dave@d...> wrote:
      > >Hard to believe
      >
      > No, I don't find it hard to believe, at all.
      >
      > >
      > >Kite surfers are at this stage, still a relatively small community.
      > >In the interest of growing this new sport, contact and
      communication
      > >are essential. Here on Maui as well as other places around the
      world
      > >we face a number of issues, some of which threaten access and the
      > >future of the sport itself.
      >
      > You've put your finger right on it, Vern. The community of
      > kitesurfers *is* small. In fact, it's too small to spread it all
      over
      > the net, trying to cover all the "good stuff" out there. Just like
      > search engines, it's important for kitesurfers to find everything
      > available, in *one* place on the net.
      >
      > Look, I understand why sites (like yours--and like Iwindsurfing)
      want
      > to include forums, chat, etc. You want traffic, right? Well, the
      > actual *users* of your site, and others, don't share your goals.
      They
      > want everything, in one place. OTOH, sites like Iwindsurfing *do*
      > share your goals--more traffic to their site. So, in a very real
      way,
      > you are a competitor of theirs, and just another time suck, for the
      > rest of us (no offense--your site's pretty cool, in fact)
      >
      > Without being accusatory, I'd offer the idea that your goals and
      > those of kitesurfing end users are at odds...
      >
      > Here's a thought: I think most would agree that this egroup is
      likely
      > one of the biggest, and best kitesurfing forums available on the
      net.
      > I get as many as 50-80 posts here, per day. Why not mirror *this* on
      > your site? This isn't hard to do, using frames. eGroups allows this
      > (they want a little $, but you can take that or leave it--anybody
      can
      > do frames).
      >
      > That way we'd *all* not only get more traffic, we'd drive more and
      > more content to this egroup, for the good of us all. If the current
      > "sponsor" agreement between Stefano and his sponsors is a problem,
      > well, I expect half a dozen site owners could out-bid the present
      > sponsor, for a few pennies per hit, and make Kitesurfing back into a
      > "sponsorless" group, ready for inclusion into your web site.
      >
      > Stefano, what do you think?
      >
      > Dave Culp
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