70549Re: [ksurf] Re: 5th line help required
- Aug 15, 2007Hi Jon
Thank you so much for the advice and help I really
You have answered more than I originaly asked which is
great but now I have another question if you can help
You said that all lines should be the same length,
currently they are but the 5th line is connecting to a
line that is fastened to the centre leading edge which
is about 6 ft long with several knots at different
stages therefore making it very saggy.
Should I have this extra line or should the 5th line
be fastened right up to the leading edge?
PS. I hope you dont mind me asking all these questions
--- netcmdd <jon@...> wrote:
> Do NOT give up on the 5th line, the safety and
> relaunch make it
> something I require in a kite and I don't feel safe
> without it.
> Regarding slack in the 5th line (this is mostly for
> North kites, check
> your OEM website to confirm for others):
> * There will be some slack when the depower strap
> is sheeted in since
> you've shortened the front lines. This is normal. In
> an 06 North
> kite+bar, there is no bungee so the slack is even
> more visible. It's ok.
> * Try to ensure the 5th line doesn't get too
> twisted around the front
> lines when you rig (untwist it). A couple twists is
> ok, but when you
> start doing spins, too many in one direction can
> make it tight.
> See this video to understand how to tune and check
> your line lengths:
> [hint: they should all be the same length]___________________________________________________________
> 5th line relaunch is super easy. Get kite LE down,
> downwind. If it's
> LE up, pull one side of lines to get it to spin kite
> and turn LE down.
> Grab two armfuls of 5th line to pitch kite back 45
> degrees and pull
> bar to one side. (DO NOT flip the kite on its back
> -- taco -- this
> isn't good). This makes it taxi to the side of the
> window. Let out 5th
> line as it gets to the side of window so it gets a
> bit more power.
> Once to the side, it should be wing up. Keep pulling
> bar and when it's
> about to launch let out all 5th line. It should now
> launch so steer it
> like an assisted launch.
> To relaunch with leading edge facing you:
> Trick is to ensure the lines do not slide over the
> back of the kite
> and "invert" it.
> To prevent this, pull 5th line (or all 4 lines) at
> the same time to
> get the kite toward you and create slack in the
> lines. With the slack
> in the lines, pull on the steering line on the side
> of the kite that
> is most likely not to slide up over the kite (you
> can see one set of
> lines along the canopy the other under the leading
> edge. Since the
> ones under the leading edge won't slide over the
> kite, pull these).
> The kite will spin, starting to turn
> and start to fill with air as normal relaunch. At
> this point, relaunch
> as you would with LE down (pull 5th, steer to one
> side, get to edge,
> Self landing in Sherman Channel at Little Baja
> I had to do this a while back cause I couldn't go
> upwind and I'm kite
> addicted bad. It was WAY easier than it sounds in
> 25mph on 12m. Be
> careful, this is a dangerous location to try to get
> out if you can't
> stay upwind on after I did it, (and being lofted 3
> times in the
> channel pretty well) I decided I probably shouldn't
> have tried it at all.
> You can play the 5th line to the other lines to get
> the kite off the
> water and drop it on top of the levee as you
> approach (Don B.
> explained this in more detail to me, very useful).
> So, you hit the
> chickenloop release, let go of the bar and kite
> crashes. You start
> self rescue, wind 5th line slack onto the bar (to
> make sure the kite
> is depowered as you approach the bar, wind lines,
> etc. very
> important). As you get near the rocks, pull more 5th
> line. This sends
> the kite into the air since the LE gets pulled
> toward you and the kite
> is upside down -- kite still has no power. Get it
> over the rocks as
> you drift downwind. As it gets over the grass, let
> some 5th out (or
> pull side lines a bit to get kite down) and it will
> drop on the grass.
> TOTALLY AMAZING Wink.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "rockhopper25"
> <rockhopper25@...> wrote:
> > Hi guys I am a complete newby to kitesurfing I
> have just bought my
> > first equipment which comprises of a Naish boxer
> 12 mtr kite and a
> > Naish 5th line bar. The equipment is second hand.
> > I have been watching other people and from what I
> have seen the 5th
> > line seems to be made of a line going straight up
> to the leading edge
> > of the kite and connecting via a series of knots
> at different levels.
> > On my bar the 5th line is made up from a line
> connected to a piece of
> > bungee cord then another line which goes up to the
> leading edge and
> > connects to another line with the knots. The kite
> seems to fly ok but
> > the line is very loose and hangs a lot.
> > I have asked a few people about this on the beach
> but I can never get
> > any sense from them they just tell me if it flys
> its ok.
> > Is it normal to have a 5th line made from kite
> line and elastic
> > bungee and should it be hanging or tight.
> > Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with
> > Regards Brian
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