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69044Re: [ksurf] Twinskins

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  • suntrax
    Jan 25, 2005
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      Now wasn't that a nice informative, good natured thread - reminds me of the
      good old days on this group before a certain Australian joined the group :-)


      Best regards

      Brian

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Anne Gasc" <annelabaroudeuse@...>
      To: <kitesurf@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:28 PM
      Subject: Re: [ksurf] Twinskins


      >
      > When you learn you need the easiest, safest kite you can find...
      > You should check on ikite.com, free classifieds and find an affordable old
      kite (you're going to ruin it within a few months anyway) and you'll see
      that they are ALL inflatable ones.
      > Foils could be fun but really why don't you take the experience from
      others instead of learning teh hard way?...
      > Naish kite are the ones I use and after trying cheaper ones (Best, EH, RRD
      etc...) I come back to a point: Naish & North are the best!
      > Have fun
      > Aloha,
      > Anne
      >
      >
      > suntrax <brian@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hey Mark
      >
      > I did say I was biased!! but was also empathising with the vintage.....
      >
      > Not wanting to go into too much detail at the time, my point about
      Flexifoil
      > is that they are a company who have been making ram air kites for a long
      > time and after trying unsuccessfully to market ram air kites for
      > kitesurfing they went back to the drawing board and developed an
      inflatable
      > kite range for that purpose - surely a company with so much experience
      with
      > ram airs would have stayed with that style if they believed it to be the
      > right thing.
      >
      > We also have a (new model) demo Flysurfer Ectsacy in the store, but apart
      > from Steve my main team rider (who is also a paraglider) I can't get
      people
      > to try it. Having flown it myself I find it too unpredictable to inspire
      > confidence - but maybe I am too old........... the bar, depower and leash
      > system is top drawer.
      >
      > If Graeme lived in Cape Town we would already have him riding a Boxer :-)
      >
      > Best regards
      >
      > Brian
      >
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      > Brian Wilson
      > Suntrax
      > Tel/fax 27 (0)21 5560044
      > cell; 0824656696
      > 13 Bayside Centre
      > Tableview
      > Cape Town
      > www.suntrax.co.za
      > info@...
      > Mon - Fri 9am-7pm
      > Sat 9am-5pm
      > Sun 9.30am- 2.00pm
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Mark Pronk"
      > To:
      > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:37 PM
      > Subject: RE: [ksurf] Twinskins
      >
      >
      > >
      > > Brian, Greame,
      > >
      > > My idea's on inflateables / ram-airs are a bit different. There ARE more
      > > then a few schools that teach using Ram-Airs. I'd say the odds are a bit
      > > like the odds of people buying Ram-Air kites. Most people choose the
      > > obvious choice. Buy Nike trainers, since everybody has them. If you get
      > > my point. Modern Ram-Airs offer high stability, high relaunch
      > > probability (havent drowned my kites for a single time without being
      > > able to relaunch), safety systems that are really above standard, etc.
      > >
      > > It's not surprising Flexifoil doesn't recommend any of their ram-airs
      > > for kitesurfing, simply because all of the Flexifoil ram-air kites are
      > > open celled (and i think you as a kite-vendor should know that Brian).
      > > But if you'd check out the Flysurfer.de or Peter Lynn Kiteboarding
      > > brochure for instance you'd see that they recommend ALL but a few models
      > > for water use! Flysurfer.de and Peter Lynn Kiteboarding produce closed
      > > cell kites for water use.
      > >
      > > Open celled kites aren't for water use! Period!
      > >
      > > Nevertheless there's plenty of Ram-Air kites around that are just as
      > > stable as inflateables. Not in all conditions (say 35+ knots, since
      > > tubes offer rigidity trough the inflated leading edge tube) but most
      > > certainly in more then 95% of the conditions you'd come across...
      > >
      > > Personally i'd highly recommend you'd try ANY kite you'd find
      > > interesting (which includes a Naish Boxer too, Brian would be glad to
      > > demo you one, since he's Naish dealer!) before you make the purchase.
      > >
      > > Of course this is just my 2 cents.
      > >
      > > _________________
      > > Have fun!
      > > Mark
      > >
      > >
      > > Happy kiting, whatever you fly!
      > > foilzone.com foils.nl
      > >
      > >
      > > Foilzone.com
      > > The Hague
      > > The Netherlands
      >
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