69029Re: [ksurf] Twinskins
- Jan 24, 2005Hey Mark
I did say I was biased!! but was also empathising with the vintage.....
Not wanting to go into too much detail at the time, my point about Flexifoil
is that they are a company who have been making ram air kites for a long
time and after trying unsuccessfully to market ram air kites for
kitesurfing they went back to the drawing board and developed an inflatable
kite range for that purpose - surely a company with so much experience with
ram airs would have stayed with that style if they believed it to be the
We also have a (new model) demo Flysurfer Ectsacy in the store, but apart
from Steve my main team rider (who is also a paraglider) I can't get people
to try it. Having flown it myself I find it too unpredictable to inspire
confidence - but maybe I am too old........... the bar, depower and leash
system is top drawer.
If Graeme lived in Cape Town we would already have him riding a Boxer :-)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Pronk" <mpronk@...>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ksurf] Twinskins
> Brian, Greame,
> My idea's on inflateables / ram-airs are a bit different. There ARE more
> then a few schools that teach using Ram-Airs. I'd say the odds are a bit
> like the odds of people buying Ram-Air kites. Most people choose the
> obvious choice. Buy Nike trainers, since everybody has them. If you get
> my point. Modern Ram-Airs offer high stability, high relaunch
> probability (havent drowned my kites for a single time without being
> able to relaunch), safety systems that are really above standard, etc.
> It's not surprising Flexifoil doesn't recommend any of their ram-airs
> for kitesurfing, simply because all of the Flexifoil ram-air kites are
> open celled (and i think you as a kite-vendor should know that Brian).
> But if you'd check out the Flysurfer.de or Peter Lynn Kiteboarding
> brochure for instance you'd see that they recommend ALL but a few models
> for water use! Flysurfer.de and Peter Lynn Kiteboarding produce closed
> cell kites for water use.
> Open celled kites aren't for water use! Period!
> Nevertheless there's plenty of Ram-Air kites around that are just as
> stable as inflateables. Not in all conditions (say 35+ knots, since
> tubes offer rigidity trough the inflated leading edge tube) but most
> certainly in more then 95% of the conditions you'd come across...
> Personally i'd highly recommend you'd try ANY kite you'd find
> interesting (which includes a Naish Boxer too, Brian would be glad to
> demo you one, since he's Naish dealer!) before you make the purchase.
> Of course this is just my 2 cents.
> Have fun!
> Happy kiting, whatever you fly!
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