50690Re: Replacement kites
- Apr 1, 2002You asked for replacements for you AR5's - and thats what I have
tried to answer in the first posting below.
But it should be said, that there are foils/ARC's as alternatives.
Foils fly much faster, and develop momentarily much more power.
This is the reason they are good in light winds - because you can
sinus through lulls much more effective than even the biggest
inflatable. But they turn relatively slow too, in the big sizes.
They are lighter - because you are using all the kite area for lift.
And IMO more fun to fly, in real light winds.
Some foils have luffing problems, but others have found a good design
to stop this. And no punctures either.
In general, the hangtime is not as long as inflatables, even though
the power-acceleration (take off for jump) is bigger for foils.
Then we have the ARC, which is a combo of foils and inflatables.
This one could be worth considering, if you want a very easy to fly,
autozenith, stable, simple to maintain, no luffing, no punctures,
fast inflated, and easy starting/landing type of kite.
The performance is (I know ARC flyers will kill me for saying this..)
slightly lower than inflatables - but if this small difference does
not mean anything , then you get all the advantages mentioned above.
Would add the alternatives - there are other really good kites
besides inflatables (inflatables get punctures - damn !)
:-) Peter Frank
--- In kitesurf@y..., "peter_frank_dk" <pf@4...> wrote:
> The reason you haven't narrowed it down, is because you can pick
> brand, or even simply the color you like the best.
> Yes - if you want flying characteristics like your old AR5's - then
> you should choose a Naish Aero or Wipika Hydro, which are very much
> alike your AR5's - they pull very steadily all the time, and are
> easiest of all to relaunch, and fly very stable - and a lot of
> wakeboarders/trick specialists use these kites today. The advantage
> of the Aero and Hydro, compared to your AR5's - is they have much
> bigger wind range.
> But some of the other types you mention, are true full performance
> kites, which are somewhat different to what you are used to.
> They fly a lot faster, turn quick, and develop a lot of spontaneous
> lift for jumping, and the upwind angle, and capability to depower
> enourmous - compared to your AR5's.
> They don't pop up from the water by itself, like you are used to.
> They will easier tuck forward - luff and fall, than other kites.
> The Wipika Airblast or Takoon Skoop are born with bridles - which
> gives you a totally different non-muscle ride, if you like that -
> they are equipped with fasteners so you can just fly without the
> bridles if you want a setup like you are used to.
> But regarding upwind performance they are quite superior because of
> the AR (which requires bridles on the big ones, to relaunch
> The Airblast has the most extreme wind range of all, but not the
> low end as other brands.
> The Naish AR2, Airush Lift, Cabrinha black tip, Slingshot Fuel, F-
> etc. - are all excellent high performance kites, and the bigger
> should be possible to relaunch because of slightly lower AR.
> The North Rhino is an extremely good compromise between handling /
> realaunchability (lower AR) and performance, and very good quality.
> You will not be able to find "one" kite that is better than the
> If they are better at one thing, they are worse in other respects -
> and vice versa.
> But newer kites are a lot better than last years, and yesteryears
> kites, regarding almost everything.
> You might find one kite that YOU find is best for your needs - and
> thats what matters !
> Keep in mind - what is important for you ???
> :-) Peter Frank
> --- In kitesurf@y..., "flyingvetuk" <pliversage@h...> wrote:
> > At present I fly naish ar5's and they are now starting to show
> > of the leading edge going( dotted line effect) so have decided
> > they require replacement. The only problem is what with. I have
> > followed all the threads for the last few months and in the end
> > have not narrowed it down that much.
> > Was initially thinking of changing to North Rhino, then the naish
> > (main reason is that it appears that the aero has similar Ar to
> > current kites), also considering the airush lifts and now that
> > is brining out the X2 that is a consideration as well.
> > can anyone please give me a comparrison of the above kites (bhe
> > if someone knows something about the x2 other than the techsheet
> > posted on another forum)
> > thanks in advance
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