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Re: Should we extend the definition of the Kanban Method?

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  • David Anderson
    I will mull this over. A reasonable suggestion.
    Message 1 of 62 , May 4, 2012
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      I will mull this over. A reasonable suggestion.

      --- In kanbandev@yahoogroups.com, Karl Scotland <kjscotland@...> wrote:
      >
      > Been mulling this over and watching the the thread. Time to weigh in...
      >
      > I like the idea of adding leadership as a principle, rather than a practice.
      >
      > I'm less convinced by adding feedback as a separate practice. I do wonder
      > whether its worth extending (and making more explicit) "Manage flow" to add
      > "using feedback mechanisms at the workflow, inter-workflow and organization
      > level"?
      >
      > Karl
      >
      > On 30 April 2012 22:26, David Anderson <netherby_uk@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Having taken input from this list and via Twitter, I am leaning towards
      > > including the concept of leadership in the principles. So this would
      > > involve adding a 4th principle...
      > >
      > > Kanban Method Principle #4
      > >
      > > Encourage acts of leadership at all levels in the organization from
      > > individual contributor to senior management.
      > >
      > > I would then reorder the current practices to add a sixth. This would give
      > > us Kanban Method Practices
      > >
      > > #5 Implement Feedback Mechanisms at the workflow, inter-workflow and
      > > organization level
      > >
      > > #6 Improve Collaborative using models and the scientific method
      > >
      > >
      > > The fifth is largely necessary, coupled with acts of leadership, to
      > > catalyze the 6th. I just don't see enough of #6 happening in the field,
      > > especially at the inter-workflow level, and I want to make feedback more
      > > explicit as a practice to encourage model-based improvements.
      > >
      > > I'd like to review this new definition at the Kanban Leadership Retreat in
      > > Austria in June. I'm hoping to have the 2nd edition ready for the
      > > conference season in October. Hence, we have until August to gain a
      > > community consensus on these revisions.
      > >
      > > Regards,
      > > David
      > >
      > > --- In kanbandev@yahoogroups.com, Celso Martins <celso.av.martins@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hi David, seems a good idea, though the sixth practice seems more a
      > > > principle, even a value, than a practice. Something like an advice to
      > > > managers.
      > > >
      > > > By the way, seems to me the 6th practice is close related to the second
      > > > view of Management 3.0 theory, by Jurgen Appelo. However, reading your
      > > 2004
      > > > post, I can see that you wrote about empowerment a long time ago, before
      > > > the release of Jurgen's book.
      > > >
      > > > The second view of management 3.0 we know very well. Can you tell how
      > > will
      > > > you develop this idea on second edition of your Kanban book.
      > > >
      > > > If I'm wrong, please tell me. I'll thank your clarification.
      > > >
      > > > Kurt, seems to me we don't need stop with the management, but changing
      > > the
      > > > way people are doing it. So, empowerment is important.
      > > >
      > > > Regards
      > > >
      > > > Atenciosamente,
      > > > Celso Martins
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------
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      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      > --
      > Karl Scotland
      > Lean & Agile Coach
      > http://www.availagility.co.uk/
      >
    • Felix Donkor
      of course we should extend the definition of the method
      Message 62 of 62 , Jun 8, 2012
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        of course we should extend the definition of the method
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