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  • Punit Pandey
    forwarded, as due to some technical reason this message is still not showing in the forum. ... From: Sunaparantha Kalyan Date: Thu,
    Message 1 of 33 , Jan 15, 2009
      forwarded, as due to some technical reason this message is still not showing in the forum.


      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
      From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
      Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM
      Subject: Test our Expertise - 02 Results
      To: k_p_system@...
      Cc: Punit Panday <punitp@...>


      Pranam to all.

       

      Dear Members.

       

      I know all of you are waiting for the results of the second quiz.

      It was a Hard Nut to Crack.

      You have said "It is in the field of Medical Astrology. We are not keen on there"

      With this excuse most of clever members stand still and look for the end.

      Yes, it is taught. It is very unusual and rare incident.  That is the main reason for making it as a quiz. And it is for the sake of increasing the knowledge, but not for a selection of the winner or leader or expert

       

      Here is the Answer.

       

      The baby was born with an IMPERFORATED ANUS, an Anorectal Malformation.

       

       

      About the disease

       

      Imperforated Anus without a fistula is an unusual malformation that occurs in very less occasions. The rectum is completely blind. It is reported that 600 new borns are affected with this disorder annually in USA.

      According to the news on the subject, this is frequently associated with DOWN SYNDROM, also known as TRISOMY-21. It is the most common genetic pattern of malformation in man.

       

      Baby at present

       

      He has been discharged from the hospital after thorough investigations and  is due to a surgery after six months.

       

      Astrological aspects as per KP

       

      Signs

      Cancer governs Stomach and Digestive Organs

      Virgo governs Bowels

      Scorpio governs Anus

       

      Planets

      Mars governs Rectum

       

       

      Houses

      Sixth House  governs Anus

       

      Stars

      Visakam 4th Pada governs Rectum and descending Colon

      Anuradha governs Rectum

      Jyeshta governs Colon and Anus

       

      Affecting of 6th house

      6th CSL in which star it is deposited, that star lord signifying 1 and 6  and that SL, if it is Venus, disease of the Rectum ( Astrosecrets & KP- Part 1)

       

      But the disease is the EFFECT, but not the CAUSE. So my opinion in this particular case is to find out the Astrological reasons for the cause, the Down Syndrome.

       

      I hope these topics may help to make corrections for those who failed.

       

      Thanks a lot for all who participated in this Quiz.

      And my congratulation to those who have success.

       

      And I regret for the poor participation of our friends and hope grand gatherings in future quizzes.


      For a picture of imperforated Anus see attachment

       

      Wish you all the best.

       

      Sunaparantha

       

       

       

       

       

       



    • Prem Chopra
      Dear Sunaparantha Ji Thanks for your kind words and all the best for your Graceful healings towards Baby and for the good Health of the baby. Thanks Tem Pram
      Message 33 of 33 , Jan 18, 2009
        Dear Sunaparantha Ji
         
        Thanks for your kind words and all the best for your Graceful healings towards Baby and for the good Health of the baby.
         
        Thanks
        Tem Pram Chopra 
         


         
        2009/1/18 Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>

        Dear Prem Ji

        Thank u once again for yr attempts on behalf of the Arogyam of the Baby.
        It shows the meaning of yr name."PREM", and the all the merits go to yr parents too, who named u as Prem.
        Today I went to see the baby. Luckily no body can recognise him as a patient. I conducted a special praying session with a sort of meditation which I have practised especially for the Life saving and good health.

        According to my third eye there wont be any misfortune for the baby.

        God bless u

        Sunaparantha
        Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:46:29 AM

        Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Re: Test our Expertise - 02 Results

        Dear Sunaparantha Ji
         
        Thanks for your Compliments I do want to see that how can we help Child to welcome in this world I dont know how but I am seeing that Angles are also in connection to helping the Child. I pray God to make Good things happen for the baby.
         
        " Oh God ! Please Show your Enlightenment of Knowledge, Good Health and Prosperity on Baby so that Baby can start expedition to servival and take task of Prarabhdh to show the sparkling Shine of yours. "

        Thanks
         
        Tem Pram Chopra
         
        2009/1/17 Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ yahoo.com>

        Dear Prem Ji.
        Prem is Loving, loving to all.
        Thanks for yr loving information on the curious birth the baby.
        At the moment I am in touch with parents of the baby and and planned to go and see the baby next morning

        Sunaparantha



        From: Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>
        Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:04:13 AM
        Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Re: Test our Expertise - 02 Results

        ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~
        ~~~ Om Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~
         
        Dear Sunaparantha Ji
         
        Namaskaram
        Baby's Dasha Analysis:
        Saturn/Venus/ Venus/Mercury/ Mars: Starts from 1/2/2009 17:23:29 Up to 3/2/2009 07:37:28.

         

        Mars Signifying 3, 5,7,10,11. Possibility of  Successful Operation. As 5th and 11th is needed for complete Cure.

        Thanks
        Tem Pram Chopra

        2009/1/17 Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964@ gmail.com>
        ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~
        ~~~ Om Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~
         
        Dear Sunaparantha Ji
         
        Namaskaram
        Here is the KPBC of baby through my software:
        Base Data

        Name

        Quiz 2 Baby

        Date

        2008-12-24 Wednesday

        Local Time

        21:14:00

        Location

        Ragama, (Sri Lanka)

        Longitude

        79:55:00 East

        Latitude

        07:01:00 North

        Time Zone

        UT +5.5 Hours

        Daylight Saving

        0.0 Hours

        Universal Time

        15:44:00

        Sidereal Time

        03:18:42

        Julian Date

        2454825.15556

        Vedic Ayanamsa

        Krishnamurti

        Ayanamsa Value

        23:53:09

        Western Ayanamsa

        None

        Ayanamsa Value

        00:00:00

        Sunrise

        06:22:34

        Sunset

        17:57:52

         

         

        Planet

        Length

        Lord

        Nakshatra

        KP Lord

        Sublord

        Bhava

        Sun

        09°13′48″ Sagittarius

        Jupiter

        Moola

        Ketu

        Jupiter

        5

        Moon

        08°15′44″ Scorpio

        Mars

        Anuradha

        Saturn

        Venus

        4

        Mars

        04°01′45″ Sagittarius

        Jupiter

        Moola

        Ketu

        Moon

        5

        Mercury

        25°00′55″ Sagittarius

        Jupiter

        P.Shadha

        Venus

        Mercury

        5

        Jupiter

        03°16′01″ Capricorn

        Saturn

        U.Shadha

        Sun

        Saturn

        6

        Venus

        25°06′59″ Capricorn

        Saturn

        Dhanista

        Mars

        Rahu

        7

        Saturn

        27°44′15″ Leo

        Sun

        U.Phalguni

        Sun

        Moon

        2

        Rahu

        17°22′08″ Capricorn

        Saturn

        Sravana

        Moon

        Saturn

        6

        Ketu

        17°22′08″ Cancer

        Moon

        Aslesha

        Mercury

        Mercury

        12

        Lagna

        24°57′26″ Cancer

        Moon

        Aslesha

        Mercury

        Rahu

        5

        Dhana

        24°56′27″ Leo

        Sun

        P.Phalguni

        Venus

        Mercury

         

        Sahaja

        26°43′13″ Virgo

        Mercury

        Chitra

        Mars

        Jupiter

         

        Bandhu

        27°53′35″ Libra

        Venus

        Visakha

        Jupiter

        Venus

         

        Putra

        27°15′16″ Scorpio

        Mars

        Jyeshta

        Mercury

        Jupiter

         

        Satru

        25°45′11″ Sagittarius

        Jupiter

        P.Shadha

        Venus

        Mercury

         

        Yuvati

        24°57′26″ Capricorn

        Saturn

        Dhanista

        Mars

        Rahu

         

        Randhra

        24°56′27″ Aquarius

        Saturn

        P.Bhadra

        Jupiter

        Mercury

         

        Dharma

        26°43′13″ Pisces

        Jupiter

        Revati

        Mercury

        Jupiter

         

        Karma

        27°53′35″ Aries

        Mars

        Krittika

        Sun

        Moon

         

        Labha

        27°15′16″ Taurus

        Venus

        Mrigasira

        Mars

        Jupiter

         

        Vyaya

        25°45′11″ Gemini

        Mercury

        Punarvasu

        Jupiter

        Mercury

         

         

        Thanks
         
        Tem Pram Chopra


        On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM, tw853 <tw853@yahoo. com> wrote:

        Dear Friend,

        As shown below, the main reason for difference in Rahu/Ketu value is that you're using TRUE value and in KP MEAN value is used.  (Mean Nodes vs True Nodes in "KPEzine, July 2008" at www.kpastrologer. com)

        Shri Raichur has said the rules are not wrong and astrologer is wrong.
        Here SWs are not wrong and astrologer can be wrong.

        Regards,

        tw

        Astraura Chart using Lahiri Ayanamsa and TRUE Nodes
        Name       : KPBC- 2
        Place      : Ragama, Sri  Lanka
        Date       :  24-December- 2008 Wednesday
        Time       : 21-14-0
        Longitude  : 79-55-0 East
        Latitude   : 7-1-0 North
        Zone       : 5.5
        Ayanamsa   : Lahiri 23° 59' 09"
        Time System: Universal Time
        Sid.Time   :  3° 17' 50"
        Latitude   : Geographic Latitude
        Cusp System: Placidus


        Positions of Planets and Cusps:

        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
        Planet             Longitude           Star                Pada K.P. Pointer     House
        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
        Sun                  9° Sa 13' 36"     Moola                3   Jup-Ket-Jup       5
        Moon                 8° Sc 15' 36"     Anuradha             2   Mar-Sat-Ven       4
        Mars                 4° Sa  1' 32"     Moola                2   Jup-Ket-Moo       5
        Mercury             25° Sa  0' 43"     Poorvashada          4   Jup-Ven-Mer       5
        Jupiter              3° Cp 15' 49"     Utrashada            2   Sat-Sun-Sat       6
        Venus               25° Cp  6' 47"     Dhanishta            1   Sat-Mar-Rah       7
        Saturn              27° Le 44' 03"     Utra Phalguni        1   Sun-Sun-Moo       2
        Uranus              25° Aq  3' 46"     Poorva Bhadra        2   Sat-Jup-Mer       8
        Neptune             28° Cp 14' 05"     Dhanishta            2   Sat-Mar-Sat       7
        Pluto                7° Sa  0' 08"     Moola                3   Jup-Ket-Rah       5
        Rahu                15° Cp 57' 11"     Shravana             2   Sat-Moo-Sat       6
        Ketu                15° Cn 57' 11"     Pushya               4   Moo-Sat-Jup       12
        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =====

        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =====
        Cusp                Longitude           Star                K.P. Pointer    
        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =====
        I                   24° Cn 57' 15"     Aslesha             Moo-Mer-Rah      
        II                  24° Le 56' 16"     Poorva Phalguni     Sun-Ven-Mer      
        III                 26° Vi 43' 01"     Chitra              Mer-Mar-Jup      
        IV                  27° Li 53' 23"     Vishakha            Ven-Jup-Ven      
        V                   27° Sc 15' 04"     Jyeshta             Mar-Mer-Jup      
        VI                  25° Sa 44' 59"     Poorvashada         Jup-Ven-Mer      
        VII                 24° Cp 57' 15"     Dhanishta           Sat-Mar-Rah      
        VIII                24° Aq 56' 16"     Poorva Bhadra       Sat-Jup-Mer      
        IX                  26° Pi 43' 01"     Revati              Jup-Mer-Jup      
        X                   27° Ar 53' 23"     Krittika            Mar-Sun-Moo      
        XI                  27° Ta 15' 04"     Mrigasiras          Ven-Mar-Jup      
        XII                 25° Ge 44' 59"     Punarvasu           Mer-Jup-Mer      
        Fortuna             23° Ge 59' 15"     Punarvasu           Mer-Jup-Mer  


        ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----
        Astraura Chart using KP New Ayanamsa (2003) and MEAN Nodes
        Name       : KPBC- 2
        Place      : Ragama, Sri  Lanka
        Date       :  24-December- 2008 Wednesday
        Time       : 21-14-0
        Longitude  : 79-55-0 East
        Latitude   : 7-1-0 North
        Zone       : 5.5
        Ayanamsa   : KPNA 23° 53' 32"
        Time System: Universal Time
        Sid.Time   :  3° 17' 50"
        Latitude   : Geographic Latitude
        Cusp System: Placidus

        Positions of Planets and Cusps:

        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
        Planet             Longitude           Star                Pada K.P. Pointer     House
        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ====
        Sun                  9° Sa 19' 13"     Moola                3   Jup-Ket-Jup       5
        Moon                 8° Sc 21' 13"     Anuradha             2   Mar-Sat-Ven       4
        Mars                 4° Sa  7' 10"     Moola                2   Jup-Ket-Moo       5
        Mercury             25° Sa  6' 21"     Poorvashada          4   Jup-Ven-Mer       5
        Jupiter              3° Cp 21' 26"     Utrashada            3   Sat-Sun-Sat       6
        Venus               25° Cp 12' 25"     Dhanishta            1   Sat-Mar-Rah       7
        Saturn              27° Le 49' 40"     Utra Phalguni        1   Sun-Sun-Moo       2
        Uranus              25° Aq  9' 23"     Poorva Bhadra        2   Sat-Jup-Mer       8
        Neptune             28° Cp 19' 43"     Dhanishta            2   Sat-Mar-Sat       7
        Pluto                7° Sa  5' 46"     Moola                3   Jup-Ket-Rah       5
        Rahu                17° Cp 27' 16"     Shravana             3   Sat-Moo-Sat       6
        Ketu                17° Cn 27' 16"     Aslesha              1   Moo-Mer-Mer       12
        ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======




        --- In k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com, "msbohra62" <msbohra62@.. .> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Dear Tw jee,
        >
        > about Quiz no 2 chart.
        >
        > I am using the software Parasar's Light 2000 I am getting planetary
        > degree as below :--
        >
        >
        > As 24:57:00 Can Ashlesha 3
        > Sun 09:13:21 Sag Moola 3
        > Moon 08:15:22 Sco Anuradha 2
        > Mars 04:01:18 Seg Moola 2
        > Mer. 25:00:29 Sag P.Shad. 4
        > Ju 03:15:35 Cap U.Shad. 3
        > Ve 25:06:32 Cap Dhanish. 1
        > Sa 27:43:48 Leo U.Phalg. 1
        > Ra 15;51:06 Cap Shravana. 2
        > Ket 15:51:06 can Pushya 4
        >
        > As per you file of this chart ,Rahu/Ketu you are getting 17:27:33
        > degrees and i am getting 15:51:06, other are in same Nakshatra as you
        > have stated just these two are in different. It is lot of difference
        > where both are most slow moving Nods.What is the reason?
        >
        > Where Ajoy have stated, the Ketu is in Sub of Mercury and i am getting
        > in star of Saturn and sub of Jupiter(SS is Ve),where Rahu is in star
        > of Moon and sub lord is Saturn(SS is Saturn).
        >
        > I am using the Parasar's software and getting very god result as in
        > Traditional Astrology.
        >
        > Thanks,
        >
        > M.S.Bohra
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > --- In k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:
        > >
        > >
        > > Dear Friend,
        > >
        > > 1. You're right that Dr. Luther Rath has used the different chart
        > > (Msg#22002) other than the chart given by Sunaparantha Kalyan as
        > > follows:
        > >
        > > Birth detail of the Baby
        > > DOB - 24. 12. 2008
        > > TOB - 9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be
        > > allowed.)
        > > POB - Ragama, Sri Lanka Long.79.55 - Lat. 07.01
        > > Time Zone - 5.5 hrs
        > >
        > > (Note: Long.79.55 means 79 deg 55 min, not decimal value of degree.)
        > >
        > > 2. Ajoy S. Chomaal seems using the chart given by Sunaparantha Kalyan
        > > (Msg#21956).
        > >
        > > 3. The problem is not showing the chart details, together with Asc
        > > vaule and Ayanamsa value used as usually done in proper presentation of
        > > analysis and we don't know which chart one is talking about.
        > >
        > > 4. The chart given by Sunaparantha Kalyan is calculated by KPAstro 3.0
        > > and uploaded in the File section under KPBC-2 CHART . JHora gives
        > > almost the same chart using the adjusted KPNA of 2003.
        > >
        > > 5. Another common practice of blind chart is giving the Asc value,
        > > Ayanamsa value together with the chart details. (If not mentioned, it's
        > > understood to be for Geographic Latitude.)
        > >
        > > Regards,
        > >
        > > tw
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@>

        > > wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Dear Dr Luther and learned members,
        > > >
        > > > In order to learn my lessons through this remarkable quiz, I was going
        > > > through the readings by our learned members. I noticed that Dr Luther
        > > has
        > > > given his analysis on an entirely different chart. The ascendant and
        > > the
        > > > planetary positions are entirely different from what I obtained with
        > > Kundly
        > > > online.
        > > >
        > > > I was wondering if their is a misunderstanding on my part or some
        > > error
        > > > somewhere. Most humbly I request Dr Luther to please clarify if I am
        > > reading
        > > > something wrong. In fact I told this to Sunaparantha ji to clarify
        > > when I
        > > > was casting the chart for myself.
        > > >
        > > > Regards
        > > > Neelam
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > 2009/1/15 Subhash Ektare subhash_ektare@
        > > >
        > > > > Dear Luther Rath & Ajoy
        > > > > Please accept my hearty congratulations for your accurate analysis.
        > > > > Regards
        > > > > Subhash Ektare
        > > > >
        > > > > ------------ --------- ---------
        > > > > *From:* Neeraj Chowksey chowkseyneeraj@
        > > > > *To:* k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com

        > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:29:04 AM
        > > > > *Subject:* Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise - 02 Results
        > > > >
        > > > > Dear Luther Sir,
        > > > > Dear Ajoyji ,
        > > > > Congratulation, Hats Offfffffff to both of you.
        > > > > Thanks & regards,
        > > > > Neeraj
        > > > >
        > > > > --- On *Thu, 1/15/09, Punit Pandey punitp@gmail. com>* wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > From: Punit Pandey punitp@gmail. com>
        > > > > Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise - 02 Results
        > > > > To: k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com
        > > > >
        > > > > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:22 AM
        > > > >
        > > > > forwarded, as due to some technical reason this message is still not
        > > > > showing in the forum.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
        > > > > From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ yahoo.comsunaparant ha@
        > > > > >
        > > > > Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM
        > > > > Subject: Test our Expertise - 02 Results
        > > > > To: k_p_system@yahoogro up.com k_p_system@
        > > > > Cc: Punit Panday punitp@gmail. com punitp@>
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Pranam to all.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Dear Members.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > I know all of you are waiting for the results of the second quiz.
        > > > >
        > > > > It was a Hard Nut to Crack.
        > > > >
        > > > > You have said "It is in the field of Medical Astrology. We are not
        > > keen on
        > > > > there"
        > > > >
        > > > > With this excuse most of clever members stand still and look for the
        > > end.
        > > > >
        > > > > Yes, it is taught. It is very unusual and rare incident. That is the
        > > main
        > > > > reason for making it as a quiz. And it is for the sake of increasing
        > > the
        > > > > knowledge, but not for a selection of the winner or leader or expert
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > *Here is the Answer.*
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > *The baby was born with an IMPERFORATED ANUS, an Anorectal
        > > Malformation. **
        > > > > *
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > *About the disease*
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > Imperforated Anus without a fistula is an unusual malformation that
        > > occurs
        > > > > in very less occasions. The rectum is completely blind. It is
        > > reported that
        > > > > 600 new borns are affected with this disorder annually in USA.
        > > > >
        > > > > According to the news on the subject, this is frequently associated
        > > with
        > > > > DOWN SYNDROM, also known as TRISOMY-21. It is the most common
        > > genetic
        > > > > pattern of malformation in man.
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > *Baby at present*
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > He has been discharged from the hospital after thorough
        > > investigations and
        > > > > is due to a surgery after six months.
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > *Astrological aspects as per KP*
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > *Signs*
        > > > >
        > > > > Cancer governs Stomach and Digestive Organs
        > > > >
        > > > > Virgo governs Bowels
        > > > >
        > > > > Scorpio governs Anus
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > *Planets*
        > > > >
        > > > > Mars governs Rectum
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > *Houses*
        > > > >
        > > > > Sixth House governs Anus
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > *Stars*
        > > > >
        > > > > Visakam 4th Pada governs Rectum and descending Colon
        > > > >
        > > > > Anuradha governs Rectum
        > > > >
        > > > > Jyeshta governs Colon and Anus
        > > > >
        > > > > * *
        > > > >
        > > > > *Affecting of 6th house*
        > > > >
        > > > > 6th CSL in which star it is deposited, that star lord signifying 1
        > > and 6 and
        > > > > that SL, if it is Venus, disease of the Rectum ( Astrosecrets & KP-
        > > Part 1)
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > But the disease is the *EFFECT*, but not the *CAUSE. *So my opinion
        > > in
        > > > > this particular case is to find out the Astrological reasons for the
        > > cause,
        > > > > the Down Syndrome.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > I hope these topics may help to make corrections for those who
        > > failed.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks a lot for all who participated in this Quiz.
        > > > >
        > > > > And my congratulation to those who have success.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > And I regret for the poor participation of our friends and hope
        > > grand
        > > > > gatherings in future quizzes.
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        > > > > For a picture of imperforated Anus see attachment
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        > > > > Wish you all the best.
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        > > > > Sunaparantha
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