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Test our Expertise -No.02

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  • Sunaparantha Kalyan
    Dear Friends, An interesting and educational test has been finished. On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a
    Message 1 of 21 , Jan 7, 2009

      Dear Friends,

       

      An interesting and educational test has been finished.

      On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

       

      While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

       

      Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

       

      As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

       

      The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

       

      Question

       This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

      1.1. What is the disorder?

               1.2. Is it curable?

      1.3. If so when?

       

      Birth detail of the Baby

      DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

      TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

      POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

      Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

      Gender - Male

       

      Wish U all the best

      Sunaparantha

       

       

       


    • Prem Chopra
      ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ ~~~ Om Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~ Dear Sunaparantha Ji Namaskaram Horoscope cast for the Natal Chart of Baby reveals that
      Message 2 of 21 , Jan 9, 2009
        ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~
        ~~~ Om Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~
         
        Dear Sunaparantha Ji
         
        Namaskaram
         
        Horoscope cast for the Natal Chart of Baby reveals that
         
        6SbL is Venus and its StrL is Mars Placed in 5H.
         
        Occupant of 6H Jupiter (StrL Sun Placed in 5H) and Rahu (StrL Moon Placed in 4H)
         
        In all these collection of 6H Scorpio Sign is common.
         
        So Let it be confirmed that
         
        What is the disorder?

        Answer is Generative Organs, Vernreal Distemper, The Bladder (Reader VI, Page-113, Scorpio)

        As 6H Sign is Sagittarius it contains Fiery, Fix, Semi fruitful properties. (Reader VI, Page-108, Fruitful-topic)
         
        Thanks
         
        Tem Pram Chopra

         
        On 1/7/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:

        Dear Friends,

         

        An interesting and educational test has been finished.

        On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

         

        While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

         

        Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

         

        As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

         

        The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

         

        Question

         This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

        1.1. What is the disorder?

                 1.2. Is it curable?

        1.3. If so when?

         

        Birth detail of the Baby

        DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

        TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

        POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

        Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

        Gender - Male

         

        Wish U all the best

        Sunaparantha

         

         

         



      • adith kasinath.g.k
        Dear Sunaparantha, Thanks for your Appreciation ! Welcome to the Test no.2! I am not good at medical astrology, but I have tried my best and given the analysis
        Message 3 of 21 , Jan 9, 2009
          Dear Sunaparantha,

          Thanks for your Appreciation !
          Welcome to the Test no.2!

          I am not good at medical astrology, but I have tried my best and given the analysis below:.
          FYI: as I will be out of town from 13/jan to 18/jan, I can know the result only once I am back. I have to wait anxiously.

          TEST OUR EXPERTISE: 2

          Lagna: lord Moon is traveling in the star of Saturn who is in 2.

          Saturn is in the star of Sun Lord of 2 in 5.

          Rahu is in 6 and represents Saturn => 6,7,8,2

           

          Moon signifies through star lord => 2,6,7,8

          Moon is in the sub of Venus

          Venus is lord of 11 and 4 in 7. Venus is the Badhaga Lord is in Marraka house.

          Venus is in Mars star in 5 and in the Sub of Rahu.

          Rahu is in Moon star.(lord of 1 in 4)

          Rahu represents 1,6,2,7,8.


          Hence 2,7,11,4,6,8 and 5 signified.

          Ketu is in 12 but represents Moon also.


          Lagna star lord : Mercury and Sub lord is Rahu

          Mercury is lord of 12 and 3 in 5. but close conjunction with 6

          Mercury is in Venus star=11,4,7 (11 is badaka and 7 is Maraka)

          Ketu is in Mercury star and sub. Hence it signfies, 12,1,4 also

          So  5,12,3,6, 11,4,7,12,1,4.

           

          Lagna sub lord: Rahu is in 6.

          Rahu is in Moon star=>6,1,4 (1,6 indicates illness)

          Rahu represents Saturn =>7,8,2. Also Rahu is in Saturn sub (2,7 danger to life)

           

          VIth cusp: sgl-strl-sub-subsub

          Jupiter-Venus-Mercury-Saturn

          May be the child has Physical disorder due to nervous problem (Mercury and Venus).

          As Satrun involved, may be bones affected.

          VIth cusp sub lord:  Mercury => 5,12,3,6, 11,4,7,12,1,4.

          1,6 indicates illness. And 11 and 7 indicate Maraka and Badhaka

          VIII sub:Mercury => same as above.

           

          As Lagna is signifying 1,6,2,7,8, both illness and also Maraka indications seen

          The VIII th cusp is connected to 7,11 (7 is 12 to 8) Maraka and Badaka.

           
          Also Badaka Lord Venus is in Maraka house in 7 and aspect Lagna.

           
          Hope the life of the child may be at Risk!

           
          My doubt: Indications of 5 in 1,6 cusp subs are signifying 5, is there any chance of cure?

          But as there are Maraka and Badaka lords are more powerful and the DBA also not favoring, the life may be at RISK?

           
          My Answer:

          a)The Physical disorder: Nervous disorders and may be Bones related (affected)

           
          b)Life may be at Risk!

           
          These are just my findings. May be wrong also . I am afraid I am not good at Medical Astrology.!

           
          Thanks and Regards

          Adith

          Sai Zodiac Consultancy




          On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:

          Dear Friends,

           

          An interesting and educational test has been finished.

          On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

           

          While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

           

          Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

           

          As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

           

          The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

           

          Question

           This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

          1.1. What is the disorder?

                   1.2. Is it curable?

          1.3. If so when?

           

          Birth detail of the Baby

          DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

          TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

          POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

          Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

          Gender - Male

           

          Wish U all the best

          Sunaparantha

           

           

           



        • Punit Pandey
          Dear Sunaparantha ji, Due to the time constraint I was not able to participate in the last quiz, so I thank you for giving me this opportunity again. I hope
          Message 4 of 21 , Jan 10, 2009
            Dear Sunaparantha ji,
             
            Due to the time constraint I was not able to participate in the last quiz, so I thank you for giving me this opportunity again. I hope that the similar case studies will continue in this forum.
             
            The open ended question like this is really hard to answer and one should not only be good in astrology but also in medical science to answer such a question. With my limited knowledge of medical astrology, I am attempting this question just to level my knowledge.
             
            Coming back to the exercise, 1 CSL is Rahu in 6th house with Jupiter. It shows Vata disease as per Ayurveda. In Ayurveda all diseases are classifieds as Vata, Pitta and Kapha or a combination of these doshas. In English, Vata dosha is roughly translated as neurological disorder i.e. health condition involving the nervous system. Two most common disorders can be inappropriate growth of certain parts of the body/ organs or lack of control over certain part of body (e.g. in paralysis).
             
            Both Rahu and Jupiter are in Capricorn owned by Saturn indicating a chronic disease. I believe that the problem will last long and will not be cured fully. This is also substantiated by the fact that the present mahadasa is of Saturn.
             
            Rahu and Jupiter are in Capricorn with Venus which is also affecting Venus. So in terms of planets, I belive that the disorder will be primarily related to Jupiter and Venus. Based on this, I asume that in terms of organs, the kid may have defect related to generative system, kidney, lungs or lever.
             
            Saturn (lord of 8th)-Ketu(in 12) balance dasa at the time of birth suggests that the kid may already have one operation in last year 2008. Special care will be required in present Venus dasa (till October 2011) as it will complete the chain of Maraka and Badhaka. This may prove testing time for the baby.
             
            Apart from Maraha and Badhaka houses, Venus also strongly signifies 5th house (cure) and I wish that 5th house will take precedence over 7th and 11th house. I wish baby all the best.

            Thanks & Regards,

            Punit Pandey


            On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:

            Dear Friends,

             

            An interesting and educational test has been finished.

            On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

             

            While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

             

            Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

             

            As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

             

            The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

             

            Question

             This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

            1.1. What is the disorder?

                     1.2. Is it curable?

            1.3. If so when?

             

            Birth detail of the Baby

            DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

            TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

            POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

            Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

            Gender - Male

             

            Wish U all the best

            Sunaparantha

             

             

             



          • Ramani
            Dear Sunaparanthaji, Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated. However I have tried to find out the possible problem of the child with full
            Message 5 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
              Dear Sunaparanthaji,
               
              Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
              the child with full explanation under KP system.
               
              Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)

               

              Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?

               

              In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place inSri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.

               

              BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:

                 :

                                            :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          

              Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter

              Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon

              Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.

              .

              Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt’s SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon’s position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is

              9-14 P.M.

               

              What is the disease?

               

              For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro’ his star lord and also thro’ Rahu’s  sub lord..  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.

              .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro’ his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt.    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro’ his star lord Moon. 

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              Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart.  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart..

              Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.

               

               According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord..  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro’ star or sub. With Sun’s conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..

               

               Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd

              S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro’ his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,

               

              Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           

               

               Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.

               

              Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.

               

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              Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging

              For the longevity of the boy.

               

              Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, .  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.

               

              Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet’s transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification..  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under ‘Balarishta yoga’ Waning Moon as Lagna lord,

              Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn’s aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro’ her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node

              And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta

              Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.

               

               

              (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad..

               

              I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..

              For the survival of the boy.

               

                                                                           ---------------

               

               

              PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.

              .

              With regards,
               
              Astrologically yours,
               
              K.S.V.Ramani
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
              Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

              Dear Friends,

              An interesting and educational test has been finished.

              On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

              While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

              Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

              As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

              The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

              Question

               This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

              1.1. What is the disorder?

                       1.2. Is it curable?

              1.3. If so when?

              Birth detail of the Baby

              DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

              TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

              POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

              Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

              Gender - Male

              Wish U all the best

              Sunaparantha


            • Sunaparantha Kalyan
              Dear Ramani Ji, Good and hard effort. Thanks for join with us. But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00. I suggest u to do it once again by
              Message 6 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                Dear Ramani Ji,

                Good and hard effort.
                Thanks for join with us.
                But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.

                I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post the result in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the analyzings with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.

                Regds
                Sunaparantha


                From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@...>
                To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                 
                Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
                the child with full explanation under KP system.
                 
                Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)

                 

                Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?

                 

                In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.

                 

                BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:

                   :

                                              :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          

                Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter

                Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon

                Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.

                .

                Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt’s SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon’s position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is

                9-14 P.M.

                 

                What is the disease?

                 

                For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro’ his star lord and also thro’ Rahu’s  sub lord..  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.

                .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro’ his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt.    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro’ his star lord Moon. 

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                Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart.  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart..

                Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.

                 

                 According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord...  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro’ star or sub. With Sun’s conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..

                 

                 Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd

                S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro’ his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,

                 

                Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           

                 

                 Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.

                 

                Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.

                 

                                                                           Page 3.

                 

                Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging

                For the longevity of the boy.

                 

                Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, .  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.

                 

                Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet’s transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification. .  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under ‘Balarishta yoga’ Waning Moon as Lagna lord,

                Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn’s aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro’ her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node

                And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta

                Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.

                 

                 

                (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad..

                 

                I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..

                For the survival of the boy.

                 

                                                                             ------------ ---

                 

                 

                PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.

                .

                With regards,
                 
                Astrologically yours,
                 
                K.S.V.Ramani
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                Dear Friends,

                An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                Question

                 This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                1.1. What is the disorder?

                         1.2. Is it curable?

                1.3. If so when?

                Birth detail of the Baby

                DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                Gender - Male

                Wish U all the best

                Sunaparantha



              • Luther Rath
                Dear Members, While wishing you all the best I attach herewith my analysis for Test our Expertise No. 2.Please find the attachment. I could paste it here but
                Message 7 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                  Dear Members,
                  While wishing you all the best I attach herewith my analysis for Test our Expertise No. 2.Please find the attachment. I could paste it here but only for the chart a attach. However I am pasting my conclusion only on this page.
                  "

                  So the disease could be congenital absence of anus and some part of rectum. The baby undergoes surgery. The condition may prolong for some time. There are no indications of cure although Mars shows some relief for some time."

                  With due regards to all.

                  Dr. Luther Rath

                  13th Jan 2009



                  From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
                  To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:14:22 PM
                  Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                  Dear Ramani Ji,

                  Good and hard effort.
                  Thanks for join with us.
                  But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.

                  I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post the result in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the analyzings with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.

                  Regds
                  Sunaparantha


                  From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>
                  To: k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com
                  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                  Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No..02

                  Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                   
                  Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
                  the child with full explanation under KP system.
                   
                  Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)

                   

                  Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?

                   

                  In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.

                   

                  BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:

                     :

                                                :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          

                  Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter

                  Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon

                  Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.

                  .

                  Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt’s SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon’s position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is

                  9-14 P.M.

                   

                  What is the disease?

                   

                  For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro’ his star lord and also thro’ Rahu’s  sub lord..  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.

                  .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro’ his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt.    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro’ his star lord Moon. 

                                                                                 Page 2.

                   

                  Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart.  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart..

                  Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.

                   

                   According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord...  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro’ star or sub. With Sun’s conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..

                   

                   Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd

                  S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro’ his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,

                   

                  Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           

                   

                   Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.

                   

                  Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.

                   

                                                                             Page 3.

                   

                  Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging

                  For the longevity of the boy.

                   

                  Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, .  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.

                   

                  Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet’s transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification. .  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under ‘Balarishta yoga’ Waning Moon as Lagna lord,

                  Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn’s aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro’ her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node

                  And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta

                  Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.

                   

                   

                  (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad..

                   

                  I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..

                  For the survival of the boy.

                   

                                                                               ------------ ---

                   

                   

                  PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.

                  .

                  With regards,
                   
                  Astrologically yours,
                   
                  K.S.V.Ramani
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                  Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                  Dear Friends,

                  An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                  On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                  While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                  Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                  As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                  The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                  Question

                   This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                  1.1. What is the disorder?

                           1.2. Is it curable?

                  1.3. If so when?

                  Birth detail of the Baby

                  DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                  TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                  POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                  Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                  Gender - Male

                  Wish U all the best

                  Sunaparantha




                • Ramani
                  Dear Sunaparanthaji, As advised by you, the chart is cast based on time zone of +5.50. with brief explanation. Thanking you, Astrologically yours,
                  Message 8 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009

                    Dear Sunaparanthaji,

                     

                    As advised by you, the chart is cast based on time zone of  +5.50. with brief explanation.

                     

                    Thanking you,

                    Astrologically yours,

                    K.S.V.Ramani

                     

                     

                    Analysis of Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyan.

                     

                    This chart does not require any BTR. as Ascdt. S/L Rahu is in the sub of Saturn and Moon is in the star of Saturn.

                     

                    6th CSL is Mercury, lord of 3 and 12 houses.  Merc. as 3rd lord indicates nerves of heart.

                    Merc. as 12th lord is for hospitalization and separation from family.  Mercury is in the star of Venus at 7 owning houses 4th and 11th .  4th in Libra sign isfor chest, kidneys and 11th in Taurus sign for neck, bones and hinder lower part of brain. Mercury in his own sub is

                    Indicative of all the above parts. Venus is karaka for kidneys.  The child must have some

                    defects in its kidney and bladder with urinary affliction. Saturn lord of 7th and 8th aspects

                    Libra sign and Aquarius, 8th sign, which is for danger and difficulties.  Added to this Mars aspects Lagna. This show defective blood circulation and surgery.  Venus star lord of Mercury is conjoined with Jupiter, karaka for growth of disease and Rahu

                    , as agent of Saturn lord of 7th and 8th.  So the disease is chronic. Unfortunately, Mercury,

                    6th CSL and its star lord Venus both signify Bhadhakasthanam. Venus is Maraka too signifying 7th in rapt conjunction.  Saturn is another Maraka in 2nd maraca place.  Moon,

                    Lagna lord in the star of Saturn is also Maraka.

                     

                    Born with critical physical disorder.  This is seen from the affliction of Libra sign, which is 4th sign from Lagna, The baby boy is born with kidney problem with urethra trouble,impure blood circulation.  As majority of planets signifies either Marakasthanam or Bhadhaka sthanam.  Present Dasa is that of Saturn running upto 2020, Venus Bhukthi and Venus Sookshmam for many years.  As for longevity, 1,3,8 CSLs are Rahu, Jupiter and Mercury respectively.  Rahu is Maraka thro his S/L Saturn, Jupiter is also Maraka signifying 2nd thro his star lord Sun abd sublord Saturn. Mercury is both Maraka and Bhadhaka thro’ his Star lord Venus, who is the chief mischief to cause kidney problem.

                     

                     

                    Disorder :  Kidney / Hinder part of brain with impure blood circulation.& urinary problem

                     

                    Cure:  Saturn and Jupiter signify 5th but both are evil in this case. Dasa lord Saturn is

                    Obstructive planet that will not allow quick recovery.  The child has to fight for its survival for a long time.

                     

                     

                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:14 PM
                    Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                    Dear Ramani Ji,

                    Good and hard effort.
                    Thanks for join with us.
                    But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.

                    I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post the result in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the analyzings with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.

                    Regds
                    Sunaparantha


                    From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>
                    To: k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com
                    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                    Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                    Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                     
                    Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
                    the child with full explanation under KP system.
                     
                    Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)

                     

                    Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?

                     

                    In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.

                     

                    BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:

                       :

                                                  :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          

                    Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter

                    Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon

                    Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.

                    .

                    Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt’s SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon’s position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is

                    9-14 P.M.

                     

                    What is the disease?

                     

                    For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro’ his star lord and also thro’ Rahu’s  sub lord..  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.

                    .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro’ his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt.    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro’ his star lord Moon. 

                                                                                   Page 2.

                     

                    Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart.  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart..

                    Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.

                     

                     According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord...  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro’ star or sub. With Sun’s conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..

                     

                     Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd

                    S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro’ his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,

                     

                    Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           

                     

                     Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.

                     

                    Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.

                     

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                    Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging

                    For the longevity of the boy.

                     

                    Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, .  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.

                     

                    Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet’s transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification. .  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under ‘Balarishta yoga’ Waning Moon as Lagna lord,

                    Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn’s aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro’ her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node

                    And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta

                    Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.

                     

                     

                    (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad..

                     

                    I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..

                    For the survival of the boy.

                     

                                                                                 ------------ ---

                     

                     

                    PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.

                    .

                    With regards,
                     
                    Astrologically yours,
                     
                    K.S.V.Ramani
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                    Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                    Dear Friends,

                    An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                    On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                    While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                    Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                    As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                    The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                    Question

                     This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                    1.1. What is the disorder?

                             1.2. Is it curable?

                    1.3. If so when?

                    Birth detail of the Baby

                    DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                    TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                    POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                    Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                    Gender - Male

                    Wish U all the best

                    Sunaparantha



                  • Prem Chopra
                    ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ ~~~ Om Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~ Dear Sunaparantha Ji Namaskaram Horoscope cast for the Natal Chart of Baby reveals that
                    Message 9 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                      ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~
                      ~~~ Om Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~
                       
                      Dear Sunaparantha Ji
                       
                      Namaskaram
                       
                      Horoscope cast for the Natal Chart of Baby reveals that
                       
                      6SbL is Mercury and its StrL is Venus Transiting in 7H(Aquarius: Satbhisha: Portion Between Knees and ankles, calfmuscles).
                       
                      Lagna SbL Rahu and its StrL is Moon Transiting in Lagna (Leo:BarrenSign).
                       
                      Occupant of 6H Jupiter (StrL Sun Transiting in 5H(Sagittarius)) and Rahu (StrL Moon Transiting in Lagna(Leo))
                       
                       
                      What is the disorder?

                      Answer is Puss Formation between Hip and ankles. Fatal Disease is occurred.(Due to 8H and Sun, Mars transiting 6H

                      As 6H Sign is Sagittarius it contains Fiery, Fix, Semi fruitful properties.  
                       
                      5 and 11 SbL is Jupiter also transiting 6H and StrL is Sun is transiting 5H which is 12 from Jupiter 6H. But also Jupiter is SbL of 3H and 9H. May take time to cure.
                       
                      Thanks
                       
                      Tem Pram Chopra

                       
                      On 1/7/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:

                      Dear Friends,

                       

                      An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                      On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                       

                      While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                       

                      Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                       

                      As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                       

                      The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                       

                      Question

                       This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                      1.1. What is the disorder?

                               1.2. Is it curable?

                      1.3. If so when?

                       

                      Birth detail of the Baby

                      DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                      TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                      POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                      Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                      Gender - Male

                       

                      Wish U all the best

                      Sunaparantha

                       

                       

                       




                    • sandeep patel
                      Dear Sunaparanthaji, My answers to the second quiz are as under: 1. The child was born with a Congenital Heart Defect; probably Hypoplasia or Septal Defect.
                      Message 10 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                        Dear Sunaparanthaji,

                        My answers to the second quiz are as under:

                        1. The child was born with a Congenital Heart Defect; probably Hypoplasia or Septal Defect.

                        2. I think the child will undergo a heart surgery.

                        3. Before 13th Feb. 2009.

                        I think even after the surgery the prognosis is not very good.

                        Sandeep

                      • vgr pavan
                        namasthe all , i think the baby is sufferng with some heart disease and cure is not sighted. pls find my analysis attachment regards Pawan V G R ... From:
                        Message 11 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                          namasthe all ,

                          i think the baby is sufferng with some heart disease and cure is not sighted.
                          pls find my analysis attachment

                          regards
                          Pawan V G R

                          --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:
                          From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
                          Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                          To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:48 PM

                          Dear Friends,

                           

                          An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                          On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                           

                          While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                           

                          Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                           

                          As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                           

                          The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                           

                          Question

                           This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                          1.1. What is the disorder?

                                   1.2. Is it curable?

                          1.3. If so when?

                           

                          Birth detail of the Baby

                          DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                          TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                          POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                          Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                          Gender - Male

                           

                          Wish U all the best

                          Sunaparantha

                           

                           

                           




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                        • Punit Pandey
                          Dear Sandeep ji, Please post your analysis along with your conclusion. Also, if you are not using pure KP for analysis, please mention the system(s) used.
                          Message 12 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                            Dear Sandeep ji,

                            Please post your analysis along with your conclusion. Also, if you are not using pure KP for analysis, please mention the system(s) used.

                            Thanks & Regards,

                            Punit Pandey


                            On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM, sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@...> wrote:

                            Dear Sunaparanthaji,

                            My answers to the second quiz are as under:

                            1. The child was born with a Congenital Heart Defect; probably Hypoplasia or Septal Defect.

                            2. I think the child will undergo a heart surgery.

                            3. Before 13th Feb. 2009.

                            I think even after the surgery the prognosis is not very good.

                            Sandeep


                          • Neeraj Chowksey
                            Dear  Sunaparanthaji, My answer is as follows .   1) What is disorder? A- Problem urinory track, may be blocked problem in genitial organ.     2) Is it
                            Message 13 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                              Dear  Sunaparanthaji,
                              My answer is as follows .
                               
                              1) What is disorder?
                              A- Problem urinory track, may be blocked problem in genitial organ.
                               
                               
                              2) Is it curable?
                              A- 100% curable
                               
                               
                              3) if so when?
                              A- in the any period of any (D/B/A) of  SHANI,VEN, SUN,KETU, SUN
                               
                              May be in any of above ANTAR, Pratyanter. to find exect date & time of cure is difficult for me in this case.
                               
                              The above answer based on FOUR STEP THEORY
                              Strong significators(HOUSES) are as follows for each planet.
                               
                              SUN--- 12,3, 9,5,6.
                               
                              MOON--2,8,5,10.
                               
                              MARS--12,3,2,8.
                               
                              MER--7,11
                               
                              GURU--6,5
                               
                              VEN--5,10,6,9,4,1.  (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP,& house1 at 4th step)
                              .
                               
                              SAT---5,2,8   (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP)
                              .
                              RAHU--6,9,4,1,5.
                               
                              KETU--5,3,7,11
                               
                              MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT MER S/L OF SIXTH HOUSE IS STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 7,11 .
                               
                              I have generated the kundli from MYKUNDALI.com
                              That's all
                              Thanks & Regards,
                              Neeraj

                              --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@...> wrote:
                              From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@...>
                              Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                              To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 1:13 PM

                              Dear Sunaparanthaji,

                               

                              As advised by you, the chart is cast based on time zone of  +5.50. with brief explanation.

                               

                              Thanking you,

                              Astrologically yours,

                              K.S.V.Ramani

                               

                               

                              Analysis of Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyan.

                               

                              This chart does not require any BTR. as Ascdt. S/L Rahu is in the sub of Saturn and Moon is in the star of Saturn.

                               

                              6th CSL is Mercury, lord of 3 and 12 houses.  Merc. as 3rd lord indicates nerves of heart.

                              Merc. as 12th lord is for hospitalization and separation from family.  Mercury is in the star of Venus at 7 owning houses 4th and 11th .  4th in Libra sign isfor chest, kidneys and 11th in Taurus sign for neck, bones and hinder lower part of brain. Mercury in his own sub is

                              Indicative of all the above parts. Venus is karaka for kidneys.  The child must have some

                              defects in its kidney and bladder with urinary affliction. Saturn lord of 7th and 8th aspects

                              Libra sign and Aquarius, 8th sign, which is for danger and difficulties.  Added to this Mars aspects Lagna. This show defective blood circulation and surgery.  Venus star lord of Mercury is conjoined with Jupiter, karaka for growth of disease and Rahu

                              , as agent of Saturn lord of 7th and 8th.  So the disease is chronic. Unfortunately, Mercury,

                              6th CSL and its star lord Venus both signify Bhadhakasthanam. Venus is Maraka too signifying 7th in rapt conjunction.  Saturn is another Maraka in 2nd maraca place.  Moon,

                              Lagna lord in the star of Saturn is also Maraka.

                               

                              Born with critical physical disorder.  This is seen from the affliction of Libra sign, which is 4th sign from Lagna, The baby boy is born with kidney problem with urethra trouble,impure blood circulation.  As majority of planets signifies either Marakasthanam or Bhadhaka sthanam.  Present Dasa is that of Saturn running upto 2020, Venus Bhukthi and Venus Sookshmam for many years.  As for longevity, 1,3,8 CSLs are Rahu, Jupiter and Mercury respectively.  Rahu is Maraka thro his S/L Saturn, Jupiter is also Maraka signifying 2nd thro his star lord Sun abd sublord Saturn. Mercury is both Maraka and Bhadhaka thro’ his Star lord Venus, who is the chief mischief to cause kidney problem.

                               

                               

                              Disorder :  Kidney / Hinder part of brain with impure blood circulation..& urinary problem

                               

                              Cure:  Saturn and Jupiter signify 5th but both are evil in this case. Dasa lord Saturn is

                              Obstructive planet that will not allow quick recovery.  The child has to fight for its survival for a long time.

                               

                               

                              ----- Original Message -----
                              Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:14 PM
                              Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                              Dear Ramani Ji,

                              Good and hard effort.
                              Thanks for join with us.
                              But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.

                              I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post the result in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the analyzings with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.

                              Regds
                              Sunaparantha


                              From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>
                              To: k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com
                              Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                              Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                              Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                               
                              Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
                              the child with full explanation under KP system.
                               
                              Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)

                               

                              Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?

                               

                              In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.

                               

                              BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:

                                 :

                                                            :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          

                              Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter

                              Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon

                              Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.

                              .

                              Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt’s SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon’s position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is

                              9-14 P.M.

                               

                              What is the disease?

                               

                              For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro’ his star lord and also thro’ Rahu’s  sub lord...  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.

                              .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro’ his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt.    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro’ his star lord Moon. 

                                                                                             Page 2.

                               

                              Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart.  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart..

                              Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.

                               

                               According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord...  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro’ star or sub. With Sun’s conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..

                               

                               Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd

                              S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro’ his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,

                               

                              Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           

                               

                               Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.

                               

                              Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.

                               

                                                                                         Page 3.

                               

                              Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging

                              For the longevity of the boy.

                               

                              Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, ..  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.

                               

                              Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet’s transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification. .  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under ‘Balarishta yoga’ Waning Moon as Lagna lord,

                              Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn’s aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro’ her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node

                              And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta

                              Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.

                               

                               

                              (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad...

                               

                              I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..

                              For the survival of the boy.

                               

                                                                                           ------------ ---

                               

                               

                              PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.

                              .

                              With regards,
                               
                              Astrologically yours,
                               
                              K.S.V.Ramani
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                              Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                              Dear Friends,

                              An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                              On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                              While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                              Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                              As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                              The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                              Question

                               This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                              1.1. What is the disorder?

                                       1.2. Is it curable?

                              1.3. If so when?

                              Birth detail of the Baby

                              DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                              TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                              POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                              Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                              Gender - Male

                              Wish U all the best

                              Sunaparantha




                            • neelam gupta
                              Dear Sunaparantha ji and members, I am presenting below my humble attempt at quiz-02. I might be totally off the mark, but would like to learn from this
                              Message 14 of 21 , Jan 13, 2009
                                Dear Sunaparantha ji and members,

                                I am presenting below my humble attempt at quiz-02. I might be totally off the mark, but would like to learn from this experience. I have used only KP techniques only.

                                Given:
                                Boy born on 24.12.08/21.14hrs/Rangama, SL
                                KP chart cast from My Kundli online software, using KP Ayanamsha.

                                Analysis
                                The lagna, moon (also the LL) and sun are weak and afflicted. The baby is susceptible to diseases. Jupiter appears to be the main disease-giver being the debilitated l/o 6H, 6 cusp and posited in 6H with Rahu. Jupiter is also the cuspal lord of 4H (end of life), 8H (death) and 12H (hospitalization & loss). Jaltatwa of the body is seems to be afflicted by 6L making the baby prone to disease. Jupiter which becomes worse with lagna being in cancer and moon also debilitated in scorpio.

                                The dasha at birth is SAT-VEN-VEN

                                Saturn is the star controller of moon and venus is the sbl of moon, both denoting results for self. Saturn, the 7/8 lord in 2H, gains in marakatwa over the longevity and becomes connected with chronic disease to self. Venus is the 4L/11L and badhakesh, placed in marak 7H of Saturn.

                                Saturn's dasha will give the results of its star lord sun, l/o 2H in 5H with mars and mercury. SbL of sat is a weak moon in debilitation and dispositing ketu also signifying 12H and 12L (in mer star).
                                Sun is disposited by Jupiter (the disease giver) and is in ketu's star. Tthe quality of results of sun will depend on its sublord which is again Jupiter.

                                Venus will primarily give the results of its star lord mars who is 5L and 10L (8th from 5H) in 5H, and aspects lagna and 12H. Rahu is the sbl of venus again signifying diseases.

                                2,5,6,7,8,12 figure in as result giving houses with 5H as the centre spot for mars and sun both with 12L mer. Good or bad results being governed by the sublords moon (of sat) and rahu (of venus) indicating disease and inauspicious results regarding self.

                                The disease:
                                The problem appears to be caused by Sun and Mars (also disposited by 6L Jup) in 5H with Saturn posited in leo. It can be a congenital (sun) and chronic (sat) disorder of bones (sun+sat) and blood (mars+moon) with arising from a nervous disorder (mer), seriously affecting the heart (cancer + 5H) and circulation (jaltatwa) and causes anomaly in abdominal organs like liver and kidneys (jup and ven + lib+ sco). It could be a malfunctioning in bone marrow (sun+mars) which gives rise to malignancy in blood cells or abdominal organs (jup and ven).

                                Jupiter indicates a problem which is growing and may be causing an enlargement/ increase in disease and Saturn giving the chronicity. Ketu in cancer (& 12H) also aggravates and complicates the situation with problems in diagnosis and treatment.

                                Cure:
                                I am sorry to observe that the Sat-venus dasha does not show promise for cure as the houses for cure 1,5,11 are themselves afflicted. The primary curers could've been saturn+ven  (sl &sbl of LL moon), ketu & moon (sl & sbl of 5L mars) and mars+rah (sl & sbl of 11L venus). They are all themselves connected with the disease. Doctors may opt for surgery or other intensive treatment, but the way Saturn and Jupiter are gripping the chart, a cure looks like a remote possibility, even in later dashas.  

                                May God bless the parents and the child.

                                Regards
                                Neelam
                              • sunil gondhalekar
                                Dear Sunaparanthaji, my answer as follows based on 4 step theory. lagna sub as per noted time is Rahu but as per RP it shud be Jupiter and signify as follows
                                Message 15 of 21 , Jan 14, 2009
                                  Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                  my answer as follows based on 4 step theory.
                                  lagna sub as per noted time is Rahu but as per RP it shud be Jupiter
                                  and signify as follows
                                  PLANET : JUPITER
                                  Itself :-------------- Jupiter:- (6)   6 (9)  
                                  It's N.Swami :-------- Sun:- (5)   2  
                                  It's Sub :------------ Saturn:- 2   7 8  Cusp Yuti: (2)    
                                  It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Sun:- (5)   2  
                                  in this case Sun conjunts Pluto  so disease is not curable.
                                  6th sublord is Mercury but in RP KETU is present so weitage to Ketu
                                  it signify as

                                  PLANET : KETU
                                  Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12       Rashi-Swami Moon 4   1
                                  It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (5)   (3) 12  Cusp Yuti: (6)    
                                  It's Sub :------------ Mercury:- 5   3 12  Cusp Yuti: (6)    
                                  It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Venus:- (7)   4 (11)  Cusp Yuti: (7) 
                                  here ketu in Mercury star  and Mercury on 6th cusp,also 4th step is Venus
                                  and it conjucts with Neptune shows the incurable disease
                                  sixth cusp star is also Venus shows deformity in Legs
                                  Dasa connected to Pluto and Bhukti also connected to Pluto will not recover the baby
                                  thanks
                                  -sunil gondhalekar
                                  On 1/14/09, Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj@...> wrote:

                                  Dear  Sunaparanthaji,
                                  My answer is as follows .
                                   
                                  1) What is disorder?
                                  A- Problem urinory track, may be blocked problem in genitial organ.
                                   
                                   
                                  2) Is it curable?
                                  A- 100% curable
                                   
                                   
                                  3) if so when?
                                  A- in the any period of any (D/B/A) of  SHANI,VEN, SUN,KETU, SUN
                                   
                                  May be in any of above ANTAR, Pratyanter. to find exect date & time of cure is difficult for me in this case.
                                   
                                  The above answer based on FOUR STEP THEORY
                                  Strong significators(HOUSES) are as follows for each planet.
                                   
                                  SUN--- 12,3, 9,5,6.
                                   
                                  MOON--2,8,5,10.
                                   
                                  MARS--12,3,2,8.
                                   
                                  MER--7,11
                                   
                                  GURU--6,5
                                   
                                  VEN--5,10,6,9,4,1.  (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP,& house1 at 4th step)
                                  .
                                   
                                  SAT---5,2,8   (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP)
                                  .
                                  RAHU--6,9,4,1,5.
                                   
                                  KETU--5,3,7,11
                                   
                                  MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT MER S/L OF SIXTH HOUSE IS STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 7,11 .
                                   
                                  I have generated the kundli from MYKUNDALI.com
                                  That's all
                                  Thanks & Regards,
                                  Neeraj

                                  --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@...> wrote:
                                  From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@...>
                                  Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                  To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                                  Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 1:13 PM

                                  Dear Sunaparanthaji,

                                   

                                  As advised by you, the chart is cast based on time zone of  +5.50. with brief explanation.

                                   

                                  Thanking you,

                                  Astrologically yours,

                                  K.S.V.Ramani

                                   

                                   

                                  Analysis of Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyan.

                                   

                                  This chart does not require any BTR. as Ascdt. S/L Rahu is in the sub of Saturn and Moon is in the star of Saturn.

                                   

                                  6th CSL is Mercury, lord of 3 and 12 houses.  Merc. as 3rd lord indicates nerves of heart.

                                  Merc. as 12th lord is for hospitalization and separation from family.  Mercury is in the star of Venus at 7 owning houses 4th and 11th .  4th in Libra sign isfor chest, kidneys and 11th in Taurus sign for neck, bones and hinder lower part of brain. Mercury in his own sub is

                                  Indicative of all the above parts. Venus is karaka for kidneys.  The child must have some

                                  defects in its kidney and bladder with urinary affliction. Saturn lord of 7th and 8th aspects

                                  Libra sign and Aquarius, 8th sign, which is for danger and difficulties.  Added to this Mars aspects Lagna. This show defective blood circulation and surgery.  Venus star lord of Mercury is conjoined with Jupiter, karaka for growth of disease and Rahu

                                  , as agent of Saturn lord of 7th and 8th.  So the disease is chronic. Unfortunately, Mercury,

                                  6th CSL and its star lord Venus both signify Bhadhakasthanam. Venus is Maraka too signifying 7th in rapt conjunction.  Saturn is another Maraka in 2nd maraca place.  Moon,

                                  Lagna lord in the star of Saturn is also Maraka.

                                   

                                  Born with critical physical disorder.  This is seen from the affliction of Libra sign, which is 4th sign from Lagna, The baby boy is born with kidney problem with urethra trouble,impure blood circulation.  As majority of planets signifies either Marakasthanam or Bhadhaka sthanam.  Present Dasa is that of Saturn running upto 2020, Venus Bhukthi and Venus Sookshmam for many years.  As for longevity, 1,3,8 CSLs are Rahu, Jupiter and Mercury respectively.  Rahu is Maraka thro his S/L Saturn, Jupiter is also Maraka signifying 2nd thro his star lord Sun abd sublord Saturn. Mercury is both Maraka and Bhadhaka thro' his Star lord Venus, who is the chief mischief to cause kidney problem.

                                   

                                   

                                  Disorder :  Kidney / Hinder part of brain with impure blood circulation..& urinary problem

                                   

                                  Cure:  Saturn and Jupiter signify 5th but both are evil in this case. Dasa lord Saturn is

                                  Obstructive planet that will not allow quick recovery.  The child has to fight for its survival for a long time.

                                   

                                   

                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:14 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                   
                                  Dear Ramani Ji,

                                  Good and hard effort.
                                  Thanks for join with us.
                                  But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.

                                  I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post the result in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the analyzings with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.

                                  Regds
                                  Sunaparantha
                                   


                                  From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>
                                  To: k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com

                                  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                  Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                   
                                  Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
                                  the child with full explanation under KP system.
                                   
                                  Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)

                                   

                                  Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?

                                   

                                  In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.

                                   

                                  BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:

                                     :

                                                                :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          

                                  Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter

                                  Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon

                                  Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.

                                  .

                                  Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt's SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon's position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is

                                  9-14 P.M.

                                   

                                  What is the disease?

                                   

                                  For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro' his star lord and also thro' Rahu's  sub lord...  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.

                                  .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro' his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt.    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro' his star lord Moon. 

                                                                                                 Page 2.

                                   

                                  Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart.  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart..

                                  Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.

                                   

                                   According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord...  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro' star or sub. With Sun's conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..

                                   

                                   Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd

                                  S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro' his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,

                                   

                                  Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           

                                   

                                   Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.

                                   

                                  Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.

                                   

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                                  Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging

                                  For the longevity of the boy.

                                   

                                  Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, ..  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.

                                   

                                  Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet's transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification. .  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under 'Balarishta yoga' Waning Moon as Lagna lord,

                                  Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn's aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro' her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node

                                  And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta

                                  Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.

                                   

                                   

                                  (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad...

                                   

                                  I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..

                                  For the survival of the boy.

                                   

                                                                                               ------------ ---

                                   

                                   

                                  PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.

                                  .

                                  With regards,
                                   
                                  Astrologically yours,
                                   
                                  K.S.V.Ramani
                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                                  Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                   

                                  Dear Friends,

                                  An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                                  On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                                  While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                                  Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                                  As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                                  The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                                  Question

                                   This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                                  1.1. What is the disorder?

                                           1.2. Is it curable?

                                  1.3. If so when?

                                  Birth detail of the Baby

                                  DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                                  TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                                  POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                                  Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                                  Gender - Male

                                  Wish U all the best

                                  Sunaparantha





                                • msbohra62
                                  Dear sunaparantha jee, I have analyse this quiz no 2. by Traditional Astrology,my answer is as below :- 1.1 the disorder is some enlargement in body structure
                                  Message 16 of 21 , Jan 14, 2009
                                    Dear sunaparantha jee,

                                    I have analyse this quiz no 2. by Traditional Astrology,my answer is
                                    as below :-

                                    1.1 the disorder is some enlargement in body structure as enlargement
                                    of Bones at the junction of hip joints,thigh along with some
                                    abnormalities in abdomen reasion may be malfunction of Liver or
                                    enlargement of liver.

                                    1.2 Yes it is curable but need surgery.

                                    1.3 In my view The Dasa of Sat-Ve-Mars is favorable if can wait for
                                    Sat-Sun-sun period it will better.

                                    No thereat to life he will survive as per my observations.

                                    Details of analysis I will post in late night or in the morning.

                                    Thanks,

                                    M.S.Bohra





                                    --- In k_p_system@yahoogroups.com, "sunil gondhalekar"
                                    <sunilalaka@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                    > my answer as follows based on 4 step theory.
                                    > lagna sub as per noted time is Rahu but as per RP it shud be Jupiter
                                    > and signify as follows
                                    > PLANET : JUPITER
                                    > Itself :-------------- Jupiter:- (6) 6 (9)
                                    > It's N.Swami :-------- Sun:- (5) 2
                                    > It's Sub :------------ Saturn:- 2 7 8 Cusp Yuti: (2)
                                    > It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Sun:- (5) 2
                                    > in this case Sun conjunts Pluto so disease is not curable.
                                    > 6th sublord is Mercury but in RP KETU is present so weitage to Ketu
                                    > it signify as
                                    >
                                    > PLANET : KETU
                                    > Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12 Rashi-Swami Moon 4 1
                                    > It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (5) (3) 12 Cusp Yuti: (6)
                                    > It's Sub :------------ Mercury:- 5 3 12 Cusp Yuti: (6)
                                    > It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Venus:- (7) 4 (11) Cusp Yuti: (7)
                                    > here ketu in Mercury star and Mercury on 6th cusp,also 4th step is
                                    Venus
                                    > and it conjucts with Neptune shows the incurable disease
                                    > sixth cusp star is also Venus shows deformity in Legs
                                    > Dasa connected to Pluto and Bhukti also connected to Pluto will not
                                    recover
                                    > the baby
                                    > thanks
                                    > -sunil gondhalekar
                                    > On 1/14/09, Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj@...> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                    > > My answer is as follows .
                                    > >
                                    > > 1) What is disorder?
                                    > > A- Problem urinory track, may be blocked problem in genitial organ.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > 2) Is it curable?
                                    > > A- 100% curable
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > 3) if so when?
                                    > > A- in the any period of any (D/B/A) of SHANI,VEN, SUN,KETU, SUN
                                    > >
                                    > > May be in any of above ANTAR, Pratyanter. to find exect date &
                                    time of cure
                                    > > is difficult for me in this case.
                                    > >
                                    > > The above answer based on FOUR STEP THEORY
                                    > > Strong significators(HOUSES) are as follows for each planet.
                                    > >
                                    > > SUN--- 12,3, 9,5,6.
                                    > >
                                    > > MOON--2,8,5,10.
                                    > >
                                    > > MARS--12,3,2,8.
                                    > >
                                    > > MER--7,11
                                    > >
                                    > > GURU--6,5
                                    > >
                                    > > VEN--5,10,6,9,4,1. (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP,&
                                    house1
                                    > > at 4th step)
                                    > > .
                                    > >
                                    > > SAT---5,2,8 (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP)
                                    > > .
                                    > > RAHU--6,9,4,1,5.
                                    > >
                                    > > KETU--5,3,7,11
                                    > >
                                    > > MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT MER S/L OF SIXTH HOUSE IS STRONG SIGNIFICATOR
                                    OF 7,11
                                    > > .
                                    > >
                                    > > I have generated the kundli from MYKUNDALI.com
                                    > > That's all
                                    > > Thanks & Regards,
                                    > > Neeraj
                                    > >
                                    > > --- On *Tue, 1/13/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@...>* wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@...>
                                    > > Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                    > > To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 1:13 PM
                                    > >
                                    > > Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > As advised by you, the chart is cast based on time zone of +5.50.
                                    with
                                    > > brief explanation.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Thanking you,
                                    > >
                                    > > Astrologically yours,
                                    > >
                                    > > K.S.V.Ramani
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Analysis of Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyan.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > This chart does not require any BTR. as Ascdt. S/L Rahu is in the
                                    sub of
                                    > > Saturn and Moon is in the star of Saturn.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > 6th CSL is Mercury, lord of 3 and 12 houses. Merc. as 3rd lord
                                    indicates
                                    > > nerves of heart.
                                    > >
                                    > > Merc. as 12th lord is for hospitalization and separation from
                                    family. Mercury
                                    > > is in the star of Venus at 7 owning houses 4th and 11th . 4th in
                                    Libra
                                    > > sign isfor chest, kidneys and 11th in Taurus sign for neck, bones and
                                    > > hinder lower part of brain. Mercury in his own sub is
                                    > >
                                    > > Indicative of all the above parts. Venus is karaka for kidneys.
                                    The child
                                    > > must have some
                                    > >
                                    > > defects in its kidney and bladder with urinary affliction. Saturn
                                    lord of 7
                                    > > th and 8th aspects
                                    > >
                                    > > Libra sign and Aquarius, 8th sign, which is for danger and
                                    difficulties. Added
                                    > > to this Mars aspects Lagna. This show defective blood circulation and
                                    > > surgery. Venus star lord of Mercury is conjoined with Jupiter,
                                    karaka for
                                    > > growth of disease and Rahu
                                    > >
                                    > > , as agent of Saturn lord of 7th and 8th. So the disease is chronic.
                                    > > Unfortunately, Mercury,
                                    > >
                                    > > 6th CSL and its star lord Venus both signify Bhadhakasthanam. Venus is
                                    > > Maraka too signifying 7th in rapt conjunction. Saturn is another
                                    Maraka
                                    > > in 2nd maraca place. Moon,
                                    > >
                                    > > Lagna lord in the star of Saturn is also Maraka.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Born with critical physical disorder. This is seen from the
                                    affliction of
                                    > > Libra sign, which is 4th sign from Lagna, The baby boy is born
                                    with kidney
                                    > > problem with urethra trouble,impure blood circulation. As majority of
                                    > > planets signifies either Marakasthanam or Bhadhaka sthanam.
                                    Present Dasa
                                    > > is that of Saturn running upto 2020, Venus Bhukthi and Venus
                                    Sookshmam for
                                    > > many years. As for longevity, 1,3,8 CSLs are Rahu, Jupiter and
                                    Mercury
                                    > > respectively. Rahu is Maraka thro his S/L Saturn, Jupiter is also
                                    Maraka
                                    > > signifying 2nd thro his star lord Sun abd sublord Saturn. Mercury
                                    is both
                                    > > Maraka and Bhadhaka thro' his Star lord Venus, who is the chief
                                    mischief to
                                    > > cause kidney problem.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Disorder : Kidney / Hinder part of brain with impure blood
                                    circulation..&
                                    > > urinary problem
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Cure: Saturn and Jupiter signify 5th but both are evil in this
                                    case. Dasa
                                    > > lord Saturn is
                                    > >
                                    > > Obstructive planet that will not allow quick recovery. The child
                                    has to
                                    > > fight for its survival for a long time.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > *From:* Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
                                    > > *To:* k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com <k_p_system@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:14 PM
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Dear Ramani Ji,
                                    > >
                                    > > Good and hard effort.
                                    > > Thanks for join with us.
                                    > > But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.
                                    > >
                                    > > I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post
                                    the result
                                    > > in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the
                                    analyzings
                                    > > with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.
                                    > >
                                    > > Regds
                                    > > Sunaparantha
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ------------------------------
                                    > > *From:* Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>
                                    > > *To:* k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com
                                    > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                    > >
                                    > > Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                    > >
                                    > > Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated. However I have
                                    > > tried to find out the possible problem of
                                    > > the child with full explanation under KP system.
                                    > >
                                    > > Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji (Test your
                                    expertise)
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Query: Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the
                                    > > disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time
                                    zone for
                                    > > which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone
                                    as +6.00
                                    > > and worked out the chart accordingly.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:
                                    > >
                                    > > :
                                    > >
                                    > > : Sign Lord Star Lord Sub Lord
                                    > > SSL SSSL SSSSL
                                    > >
                                    > > Ascdt. 107-45-56 Moon Merc. Merc Rahu
                                    > > Jupiter Jupiter
                                    > >
                                    > > Moon 218-6-18 Mars Saturn Kethu
                                    Merc.
                                    > > Ssturn Moon
                                    > >
                                    > > Merc. 265-4-27 Jupiter. Venus Merc.
                                    Rahu.
                                    > > Rahu Merc.
                                    > >
                                    > > .
                                    > >
                                    > > Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is
                                    in the
                                    > > sign and sub of Saturn. Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc.
                                    in the
                                    > > star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub
                                    of Rahu
                                    > > agent and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other
                                    planet in
                                    > > its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.
                                    Moon is in
                                    > > the star of Saurn. Ascdt's SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength
                                    > > planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn. Moon is in the star of
                                    > > Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon's position,
                                    no correction
                                    > > is considered necessary for TOB. which is
                                    > >
                                    > > 9-14 P.M.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > What is the disease?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who
                                    is the
                                    > > deciding authority for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or
                                    > > ordinary. Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in
                                    4, as
                                    > > waning Moon. She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated
                                    > > sign and. is in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka, . So star
                                    lord of
                                    > > Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro' his star lord and also thro'
                                    Rahu's sub
                                    > > lord... Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature
                                    planet. So
                                    > > the disease is a chronic one.
                                    > >
                                    > > . Rahu, 6th CSL is with self strength i.e. no other planet,
                                    signifies
                                    > > strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So
                                    signifies
                                    > > 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro' his Star lord Moon
                                    sinifies
                                    > > Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn
                                    aspects 8thhouse of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8
                                    > > th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of
                                    > > Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the
                                    > > signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th. 6th CSL is
                                    spoilt.
                                    > > For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th
                                    sublord. Lord
                                    > > of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a
                                    watery
                                    > > sign. Jupiter, is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu. Jupiter
                                    a;lso
                                    > > aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord
                                    of 6this Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.
                                    > > 6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic. Sign lord
                                    Jupiter is
                                    > > in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter
                                    too is in
                                    > > the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna
                                    from his
                                    > > debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna
                                    thro' his
                                    > > star lord Moon.
                                    > >
                                    > > Page 2.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains
                                    > > marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam. Thus it may
                                    be seen
                                    > > that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses
                                    of chest
                                    > > and heart. Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention.
                                    Rahu is
                                    > > conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th. Mercury is
                                    karaka for
                                    > > heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka. It may
                                    be seen
                                    > > that Rahu,, a self strength planet, though in 6th is very close
                                    7thcusp.and gets maraka effects
                                    > > Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo,
                                    karaka
                                    > > for heart..
                                    > >
                                    > > Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned
                                    with the
                                    > > heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp
                                    > > falls indicating danger.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should
                                    connect the
                                    > > sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun,
                                    > > Moon,Saturn and Rahu . Further the same sub lord (6th) should
                                    signify 8thhouse and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above
                                    conditions are
                                    > > fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo,
                                    > > Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord... Leo sign is badly afflicted
                                    by 7thand 8
                                    > > th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted
                                    heavily.. Sun
                                    > > is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer,
                                    Scorpio and
                                    > > Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it
                                    rules over
                                    > > the blood circulation. Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu,
                                    Jupiter
                                    > > Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their
                                    own or thro'
                                    > > star or sub. With Sun's conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood
                                    circulation,
                                    > > which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the
                                    > > circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign.. In view of
                                    all the
                                    > > adverse position of planets and cusps, the boy may be already put
                                    on in
                                    > > oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus,
                                    > > Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Longevity. Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and
                                    8th. Lagna
                                    > > S/L and 3rd
                                    > >
                                    > > S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro' his star lord
                                    Venus., a
                                    > > very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in
                                    the star
                                    > > of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well
                                    connected
                                    > > for heart disease as per KP Rule.,
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Maraka & Bhadhaka: 2 and 7th houses are maraca places.. Saturn
                                    is placed
                                    > > in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to
                                    7thwith self strength is another maraca.
                                    > > Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for
                                    Bhadhakas. Thus
                                    > > majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka. It is feared
                                    that the
                                    > > baby is not destined for longevity..
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Baby is born in Anuradha Star. Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto
                                    > > 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above.
                                    Planet of
                                    > > obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer
                                    Lagna
                                    > > native.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus
                                    is placed
                                    > > in 7th holding portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka. She is in the
                                    > > star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart. Anthatra
                                    > > loed too is Venus.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Page 3.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all
                                    evil and
                                    > > not encouraging
                                    > >
                                    > > For the longevity of the boy.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Conclusion: (1) The disorder seems to be that the baby is born
                                    with hole
                                    > > in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing
                                    difficulties, ..
                                    > > I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above
                                    > > conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo,
                                    seats of chest
                                    > > and heart signs and their lords. There is no effective
                                    signification of 5
                                    > > th, 9th etc.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be
                                    > > fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet's transit is
                                    good,
                                    > > with 5th and 9th signification. . Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is
                                    obstructing
                                    > > planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also
                                    spoiled by
                                    > > Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full
                                    cure. In
                                    > > my opinion, this case falls under 'Balarishta yoga' Waning Moon as
                                    Lagna
                                    > > lord,
                                    > >
                                    > > Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn's aspect on 8th, is weak by
                                    > > placement,d signifies Marakasthana thro' her star lord Saturn.
                                    Lagna too
                                    > > is weak by situation of Kethu, node
                                    > >
                                    > > And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the
                                    significations
                                    > > for Balarishta
                                    > >
                                    > > Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > (2) Cure is remote. Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are
                                    bad...
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some
                                    > > miracle happen..
                                    > >
                                    > > For the survival of the boy.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    ------------
                                    > > ---
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > PS: This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.
                                    > >
                                    > > . With regards,
                                    > >
                                    > > Astrologically yours,
                                    > >
                                    > > K.S.V.Ramani
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                                    > > *From:* Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
                                    > > *To:* k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com <k_p_system@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                                    > > *Subject:* [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Dear Friends,
                                    > >
                                    > > An interesting and educational test has been finished.
                                    > >
                                    > > On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable
                                    exercise
                                    > > than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.
                                    > >
                                    > > While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon
                                    > > featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night,
                                    decided to
                                    > > table for you to analyze.
                                    > >
                                    > > Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I
                                    have never
                                    > > come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so
                                    far such a
                                    > > case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request
                                    all the
                                    > > members including Seniors and Gurujis to make a thorough analyse
                                    in this
                                    > > chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with
                                    this type
                                    > > of cases to improve our ability of analysing.
                                    > >
                                    > > As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some
                                    times to
                                    > > make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the
                                    answers
                                    > > should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.
                                    > >
                                    > > The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.
                                    > >
                                    > > *Question*
                                    > >
                                    > > This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.
                                    > >
                                    > > 1.1. What is the disorder?
                                    > >
                                    > > 1.2. Is it curable?
                                    > >
                                    > > 1.3. If so when?
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > *Birth detail of the Baby*
                                    > >
                                    > > DOB - 24. 12. 2008
                                    > >
                                    > > TOB - 9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be
                                    > > allowed.)
                                    > >
                                    > > POB - Ragama, Sri Lanka Long.79.55 - Lat. 07.01
                                    > >
                                    > > Time Zone - 5.5 hrs
                                    > >
                                    > > Gender - Male
                                    > >
                                    > > Wish U all the best
                                    > >
                                    > > Sunaparantha
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                  • sandeep patel
                                    On the basis of the Ruling Planets, I have modified the time of birth to 21:17. Accordingly, the ascendant is obtained as Cancer 25-47-27. The SSL of the Asc.
                                    Message 17 of 21 , Jan 14, 2009

                                      On the basis of the Ruling Planets, I have modified the time of birth to 21:17. Accordingly, the ascendant is obtained as Cancer 25-47-27. The SSL of the Asc. is Sun. Sun is in Ketu star and the sub of Jupiter.

                                       

                                      Ketu occupies 12th house and as the representative of Moon, owns the 1st. The 12th house indicates defects. The Asc. SSL Sun as source indicates the heart and its star-lord Ketu in the 12th house indicates defect. So, the conclusion is a congenital heart disease.

                                       

                                      Rahu and Ketu show abnormalities and since Ketu, by nature, is similar to Mars, it may indicate perforation in the septum. Hence, my contention about Hypoplasia or a Septal Defect. Besides, Ketu is the SL of the 6th, 8th and the 12th houses. All these houses are related to a serious condition.

                                       

                                      Sun’s SL Jupiter occupies 6th and owns 6th and the 9th houses. Jupiter is the star lord of the 8th and the 12th cusps. So, the signification of Sun is confirmed by its SL.

                                       

                                      Dasha lord Saturn is in the Sun star Moon sub. Sun is in the 5th and owns the 2nd house. The SL Moon occupies 4th and owns the 1st house. Saturn is in 2nd and owns 7th and 8th houses. As the source, its ownership of the 8th house indicates surgery.

                                       

                                      The Bhukti, Antara and Sookshma lord Venus is in the star of Mars and sub of Rahu. Mars is in the 5th and owns 5th and 10th houses. Sub lord Rahu is in the 6th and through the medium of Saturn owns 7th and the 8th houses. Therefore, though the star-lord indicates cure (5th house), the sub lord Rahu negates it by its association with the 6th, 7th and 8th houses.

                                       

                                      The Venus Sookshma is up to 13th Feb 2009. The succeeding Sookshma of Sun, in my opinion, does not augur well for the baby.

                                       

                                      Regards,

                                       

                                      Sandeep   


                                    • ajoy s. chomaal
                                      Dear Mr. Sunaparanthaji, The quiz put by you was indeed a brain storming and tricky one. Please find attached the birth chart of the child and the analysis
                                      Message 18 of 21 , Jan 14, 2009



                                        Dear Mr. Sunaparanthaji,

                                        The quiz put by you was indeed a brain storming and tricky one. Please find attached the birth chart of the child and the analysis below.

                                        1)  6th , 8th and 2nd sublord Mercury  is significator of 7, 6 , 4 , 11 , 3 , 12. Mercury is in its own sub hence strongly signifies the above houses.

                                        2) 12th sublord Ketu signifies 6 , 12 , 3 , 12 . Ketu is also in sub of mercury and hence supports ketu in signifying 3 , 6 , 12.

                                        3) Asc sublord Rahu signifies 4 , 6 & 1. Rahu is in sub of Saturn signifying 5 , 2 , 2

                                        Mercury, sublord of 6 signifying 6 suggests disease & signifying 12 suggests hospitalization. Mercury is also sublord of 2nd and since it signifies 12 , suggests medical expenses. 

                                        The Disease
                                        :

                                        I consider the star lord of the 6th cusp as the strong pointer of the disease. Here Venus is the star lord of the 6th cusp denoting reproductory organs. Further more venus is in the 7th house denoting GENITALS.

                                        6th and 8th sublord Mercury is in sign of jupiter denoting the lower hip region. Jupiter also denotes fluid. Mercury being sublord of 6th denotes MORBID GROWTHS AND/OR ENLARGEMENTS. A peculiar thing about the chart is that both 6th and 8th house are in dual sign.  6th sublord mercury is a dual planet. 6th sublord itself is in a dual sign. (more than one). Jupiter in sign and sub of saturn shows restriction in flow.

                                        THE CHILD WOULD BE HAVING ENLARGEMENT OR MORBID GROWTH OF THE GENITALS. THERE IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY OF THE CHILD HAVING NO OR IMPROPER  ANAL OPENING FOR  PASSAGE OF STOOL.

                                        The Cure :

                                        1) Lord of ASC not afflicted with malefics - so good health
                                        2) Asc not in star of lord of 6th and 8th - so sufficient immunity and resistance
                                        3) Sublord of Asc is in star of Asc lord moon - the child would not be perpetually sick
                                        4) If significator of 5 is also significator of 11 cure is confirmed


                                        Cure When :

                                        The disease pointer Venus is in the star of Mars so surgery is sure. And since mars is in the sub of Asc lord surgery would be sucessful. The cure will happen during the joint period of significators of 1, 5, 11.

                                        SAT-VEN-SUN-MOON  - 4th mar to 9th mar 2009  OR
                                        SAT-VEN-SUN-MERCURY - 8th april to 16th april.

                                        Since the above period also signifies 3 and 12 , the child would probabely be operated out of  his home town.



                                        regards,
                                        AJOY





                                        --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:
                                        From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
                                        Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                        To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                                        Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:48 PM

                                        Dear Friends,

                                         

                                        An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                                        On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                                         

                                        While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                                         

                                        Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                                         

                                        As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                                         

                                        The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                                         

                                        Question

                                         This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                                        1.1. What is the disorder?

                                                 1.2. Is it curable?

                                        1.3. If so when?

                                         

                                        Birth detail of the Baby

                                        DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                                        TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                                        POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                                        Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                                        Gender - Male

                                         

                                        Wish U all the best

                                        Sunaparantha

                                         

                                         

                                         




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                                        Members. This one example of the Negative Effects of pluto on results of house where it is raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609 ... From: sunil gondhalekar
                                        Message 19 of 21 , Jan 14, 2009
                                          Members. This one example of the Negative Effects of pluto on results of house where it is

                                          raichur anant mumbai phone 25062609


                                          --- On Wed, 14/1/09, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@...> wrote:
                                          From: sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka@...>
                                          Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                          To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                                          Date: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 4:57 PM

                                          Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                          my answer as follows based on 4 step theory.
                                          lagna sub as per noted time is Rahu but as per RP it shud be Jupiter
                                          and signify as follows
                                          PLANET : JUPITER
                                          Itself :-------------- Jupiter:- (6)   6 (9)  
                                          It's N.Swami :-------- Sun:- (5)   2  
                                          It's Sub :------------ Saturn:- 2   7 8  Cusp Yuti: (2)    
                                          It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Sun:- (5)   2  
                                          in this case Sun conjunts Pluto  so disease is not curable.
                                          6th sublord is Mercury but in RP KETU is present so weitage to Ketu
                                          it signify as

                                          PLANET : KETU
                                          Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12       Rashi-Swami Moon 4   1
                                          It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (5)   (3) 12  Cusp Yuti: (6)    
                                          It's Sub :------------ Mercury:- 5   3 12  Cusp Yuti: (6)    
                                          It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Venus:- (7)   4 (11)  Cusp Yuti: (7) 
                                          here ketu in Mercury star  and Mercury on 6th cusp,also 4th step is Venus
                                          and it conjucts with Neptune shows the incurable disease
                                          sixth cusp star is also Venus shows deformity in Legs
                                          Dasa connected to Pluto and Bhukti also connected to Pluto will not recover the baby
                                          thanks
                                          -sunil gondhalekar
                                          On 1/14/09, Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj@...> wrote:
                                          Dear  Sunaparanthaji,
                                          My answer is as follows .
                                           
                                          1) What is disorder?
                                          A- Problem urinory track, may be blocked problem in genitial organ.
                                           
                                           
                                          2) Is it curable?
                                          A- 100% curable
                                           
                                           
                                          3) if so when?
                                          A- in the any period of any (D/B/A) of  SHANI,VEN, SUN,KETU, SUN
                                           
                                          May be in any of above ANTAR, Pratyanter. to find exect date & time of cure is difficult for me in this case.
                                           
                                          The above answer based on FOUR STEP THEORY
                                          Strong significators(HOUSES) are as follows for each planet.
                                           
                                          SUN--- 12,3, 9,5,6.
                                           
                                          MOON--2,8,5,10.
                                           
                                          MARS--12,3,2,8.
                                           
                                          MER--7,11
                                           
                                          GURU--6,5
                                           
                                          VEN--5,10,6,9,4,1.  (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP,& house1 at 4th step)
                                          .
                                           
                                          SAT---5,2,8   (STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF HOUSE 5 AT 2ND STEP)
                                          .
                                          RAHU--6,9,4,1,5.
                                           
                                          KETU--5,3,7,11
                                           
                                          MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT MER S/L OF SIXTH HOUSE IS STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 7,11 .
                                           
                                          I have generated the kundli from MYKUNDALI.com
                                          That's all
                                          Thanks & Regards,
                                          Neeraj

                                          --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Ramani <kadavasalramani@...> wrote:
                                          From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@...>
                                          Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                          To: k_p_system@yahoogroups.com
                                          Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 1:13 PM

                                          Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                           
                                          As advised by you, the chart is cast based on time zone of  +5.50. with brief explanation.
                                           
                                          Thanking you,
                                          Astrologically yours,
                                          K.S.V.Ramani
                                           
                                           
                                          Analysis of Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyan.
                                           
                                          This chart does not require any BTR. as Ascdt. S/L Rahu is in the sub of Saturn and Moon is in the star of Saturn.
                                           
                                          6th CSL is Mercury, lord of 3 and 12 houses.  Merc. as 3rd lord indicates nerves of heart.
                                          Merc. as 12th lord is for hospitalization and separation from family.  Mercury is in the star of Venus at 7 owning houses 4th and 11th .  4th in Libra sign isfor chest, kidneys and 11th in Taurus sign for neck, bones and hinder lower part of brain. Mercury in his own sub is
                                          Indicative of all the above parts. Venus is karaka for kidneys.  The child must have some
                                          defects in its kidney and bladder with urinary affliction. Saturn lord of 7th and 8th aspects
                                          Libra sign and Aquarius, 8th sign, which is for danger and difficulties.  Added to this Mars aspects Lagna. This show defective blood circulation and surgery.  Venus star lord of Mercury is conjoined with Jupiter, karaka for growth of disease and Rahu
                                          , as agent of Saturn lord of 7th and 8th.  So the disease is chronic. Unfortunately, Mercury,
                                          6th CSL and its star lord Venus both signify Bhadhakasthanam. Venus is Maraka too signifying 7th in rapt conjunction.  Saturn is another Maraka in 2nd maraca place.  Moon,
                                          Lagna lord in the star of Saturn is also Maraka.
                                           
                                          Born with critical physical disorder.  This is seen from the affliction of Libra sign, which is 4th sign from Lagna, The baby boy is born with kidney problem with urethra trouble,impure blood circulation.  As majority of planets signifies either Marakasthanam or Bhadhaka sthanam.  Present Dasa is that of Saturn running upto 2020, Venus Bhukthi and Venus Sookshmam for many years.  As for longevity, 1,3,8 CSLs are Rahu, Jupiter and Mercury respectively.  Rahu is Maraka thro his S/L Saturn, Jupiter is also Maraka signifying 2nd thro his star lord Sun abd sublord Saturn. Mercury is both Maraka and Bhadhaka thro' his Star lord Venus, who is the chief mischief to cause kidney problem.
                                           
                                           
                                          Disorder :  Kidney / Hinder part of brain with impure blood circulation...& urinary problem
                                           
                                          Cure:  Saturn and Jupiter signify 5th but both are evil in this case. Dasa lord Saturn is
                                          Obstructive planet that will not allow quick recovery.  The child has to fight for its survival for a long time.
                                           
                                           
                                          ----- Original Message -----
                                          Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:14 PM
                                          Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                           
                                          Dear Ramani Ji,

                                          Good and hard effort.
                                          Thanks for join with us.
                                          But sorry, the Time Zone is perfectly 5.30, not 6.00.

                                          I suggest u to do it once again by correcting time zone and post the result in brief, as one day more for closing. At the same time keep the analyzings with u for the secondary discussion to be held on, by the moderator.

                                          Regds
                                          Sunaparantha
                                           


                                          From: Ramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>
                                          To: k_p_system@yahoogro ups.com

                                          Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:39:16 PM
                                          Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                          Dear Sunaparanthaji,
                                           
                                          Your quiz 2 is quite interesting and also complicated.  However I have tried to find out the possible problem of
                                          the child with full explanation under KP system.
                                           
                                          Analysis for Quiz 2 by Shri Sunaparantha Kalyanji  (Test your expertise)
                                           
                                          Query:  Boy born with critical physical disorder.. (1) What is the disorder? (2) Is it curable? 3) If so when?
                                           
                                          In Birth chart details, Birth has taken place in Sri Lanka , time zone for which is +6.00 and not +5.50 as given. I have taken the time zone as +6.00 and worked out the chart accordingly.
                                           
                                          BTR correction:, whether necessary or not:
                                             :
                                                                        :  Sign Lord    Star Lord    Sub Lord      SSL       SSSL       SSSSL          
                                          Ascdt.  107-45-56       Moon       Merc.           Merc           Rahu      Jupiter      Jupiter
                                          Moon    218-6-18        Mars         Saturn         Kethu         Merc.     Ssturn       Moon
                                          Merc.    265-4-27        Jupiter.     Venus         Merc.          Rahu.      Rahu        Merc.
                                          .
                                          Ascdt. S/L is Mercury (i) Mercurry in the sign of Jupiterr. who is in the sign and sub of Saturn.  Moon is in the star of Saturn. (ii) Merc. in the star of Venus, who is .also in the sign of Saturn and in the sub of Rahu agent  and sub of Saturn. Rahu is with self strength, no other planet  in its stars. As such Rahu fully signifies both Saturn and Moon.  Moon is in the star of Saurn. Ascdt's SSSl and SSSSL is Jupiter,(a self strength planet) who is in the sign and sub of Saturn..  Moon is in the star of Saturn. As co-rulers of Ascdt. fully agree with Moon's position, no  correction is considered necessary for TOB. which is
                                          9-14 P.M.
                                           
                                          What is the disease?
                                           
                                          For any physical trouble, one is to scrutinize 6th cuspal S/L who is the deciding authority  for its nature of disease whether it is chronic or ordinary.  Here Rahu is the CSL of 6th , , in the star of Moon in 4, as waning Moon.  She is Lagna lord (Cancer Lagna) placed in her debilated sign and.  is  in the star of Saturn at 2, a maraka,  . So  star lord of Rahu, 6th CSL signifies Saturn thro' his star lord and also thro' Rahu's  sub lord...  Saturn is delaying, obstructing and chronic nature planet.  So the disease is a chronic one.
                                          .  Rahu, 6th CSL  is with self strength i.e. no other planet, signifies strongly 6th, his own placement, and he is close to 7th cusp.So signifies 7th also, which is a Maraka place. Rahu thro' his Star lord Moon sinifies Cancer sign Lagna, 2nd house Leo and Saturn therein, Saturn aspects 8th house of danger. Rahu thereby gets 8th signification too due to his self strength, he being in the sub of Saturn and as agent of Saturn his rasi lord. Thus Rahu gets the signification of Maraka effects from both 2nd and 7th.  6th CSL is spoilt..    For exact disease, let us probe further the 6th lord and 6th sublord.  Lord of 6th is Jupiter (with self strength) and also for 9th Pisces a watery sign. Jupiter,  is afflicted by the conjunction of Rahu.  Jupiter a;lso aspects 11th, which is Bhadhakasthana for Cancer native. Star lord of  6th is Venus is Bhadhaka for Cancer Lagn.  6th CSL is Rahu in the sub of Saturn, a pure maefic.  Sign lord Jupiter is in the star of Sun. lord of Leo and a karaka for heart. Jupiter too is in the sub of Saturn, malefic as stated above. Jupiter aspects Lagna from his debilated sign. Rahu, the 6th XSL also signifies Cancer Lagna thro' his star lord Moon. 
                                                                                                         Page 2.
                                           
                                          Venus star lord of 6th aspects Leo sign as Bhadhaka, who too attains marakadhipathyam in addition to Bhadhakadhipathyam.  Thus it may be seen that majority of Planets are attacking Cancer and Leo both houses of chest and heart..  Mars too aspects Lagna to cuse surgical intravention. Rahu is conjoined with Mercury, lord of 4 and 12th in 6th.  Mercury is karaka for heart nerves and is also in the star of Venus, Bhadhaka.  It may be seen that Rahu,, a self strength planet,  though in 6th is very close 7th cusp.and gets maraka effects  Mercury and Jupiter both are is in the star of Sun lord of Leo, karaka for heart...
                                          Sigh Aquarius is opposition to Leo so Aquarius is also concerned with the heart problem.. Saturn from Leo sign, aspects Aquarius, where 8th cusp falls indicating danger.
                                           
                                           According to K.P.Rule, the 6th cuspal sub lord (CSL) should connect the sign Cancer, Aquarius or Leo, 5the 4th house (heart), the planets Sun, Moon,Saturn and Rahu .  Further the same sub lord (6th) should signify 8th house and Mars for surgery. Unfortunately. All the above conditions are fulfilled here. 6th CSL Rahu is connected to Cancer and Moon, Leo, Aquarius thro Saturn his sub lord...  Leo sign is badly afflicted by 7th and 8th lord Saturn and similarly the Cancer sign also afflicted heavily.. Sun is afflicted by Mars by conjunction. .Watery signs, Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces also come under the purview of the disease of heart, as it rules over the blood circulation.  Here majority of planets viz Moon. Rahu, Jupiter Mercury, Mars are all connected to watery signs either of their own or thro' star or sub. With Sun's conjunction, Mars, karaka for blood  circulation, which is essential for heart functioning, has become impure and the circulation is also obstructed by Saturn in Leo sign..  In view of all the adverse position of planets and cusps,  the boy may be already put on in oxygen/ventilation. Fourth house from Lagna (heart) is owned by Venus, Bhadhaka, is aspected by Saturnin..
                                           
                                           Longevity.  Houses of Longevity significators are Lagna, 3rd and 8th.  Lagna S/L and 3rd
                                          S/L both is Mercury, attains Bhadhaka effect thro' his star lord Venus., a   very evil for longevity. 8th CSL is Venus, Bhadhaka Venus is in the star of Mars, signifying Lagna and sub of Rahu, 6th CSL, who is well connected for heart disease as per KP Rule.,
                                           
                                          Maraka & Bhadhaka:  2 and 7th houses are maraca places..  Saturn is placed in 2nd, Moon is in the star of Saturn, signifying 2, Rahu close to 7th with self strength is another maraca.  Venus, Mercury in the star of Venusare significators for Bhadhakas.  Thus majprity of Planets are either Marka or Bhadhaka.  It is feared that the baby is not destined for longevity..                                                           
                                           
                                           Baby is born in Anuradha Star.  Saturn Mahadasa will be running upto 7-3-2024. He is connected to heart problem as explained above. Planet of obstruction and impediments. He is 7th lord and malefic to Cancer Lagna native.
                                           
                                          Bhukthi lord is Venus running from 28-12-2008 to 10-12-2012,Venus is placed in 7th holding  portfoloios of Maraka and Bhadhaka.aka.  She is in the star of Mars conjoined with Sun lord of 2, karaka for heart.  Anthatra loed too is Venus.
                                           
                                                                                                     Page 3.
                                           
                                          Future dasas after Saturn are Mercury, Kethu, Venus etc. are all evil and  not encouraging
                                          For the longevity of the boy.
                                           
                                          Conclusion: (1)  The disorder seems to be that the baby is born with hole in the heart, with impure blood circulation and breathing difficulties, ..  I feel that the boy would have been put already in oxygen. The above conclusion is due to heavy affliction of both Cancer and Leo, seats of chest and heart signs and their lords.  There is no effective signification of 5th, 9th etc.
                                           
                                          Though surgery is seen due to aspect of Mars on Lagna, it may not be fruitful, except giving a little relief if the planet's transit is good, with 5th and 9th signification. .  Dasa Lord Planet Saturn is obstructing planet inspite of his being in the star of Sun at 5, who is also spoiled by Mercury and Mars by conjunction. I feel that there may not be full cure.  In my opinion, this case falls under 'Balarishta yoga' Waning Moon as Lagna lord,
                                          Signifying 8th thro her star lord Saturn's aspect on 8th, is weak by placement,d  signifies Marakasthana thro' her star lord Saturn.  Lagna too is weak by situation of Kethu, node
                                          And its Lord Moon also getting evil significations. All the significations for Balarishta
                                          Yoga are present in this chart of the Boy.
                                           
                                           
                                          (2) Cure is remote.  Present and all the ensuing Dasas to come are bad...
                                           
                                          I wish this prediction may go wrong, and by the grace of God, let some miracle happen..
                                          For the survival of the boy.
                                           
                                                                                                       ------------ ---
                                           
                                           
                                          PS:  This lengthy analysis may be helpful to the beginners.
                                          .
                                          With regards,
                                           
                                          Astrologically yours,
                                           
                                          K.S.V.Ramani
                                          ----- Original Message -----
                                          Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:48 PM
                                          Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                           
                                          Dear Friends,

                                          An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                                          On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                                          While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                                          Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                                          As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                                          The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                                          Question

                                           This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                                          1.1. What is the disorder?

                                                   1.2. Is it curable?

                                          1.3. If so when?

                                          Birth detail of the Baby

                                          DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                                          TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                                          POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                                          Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                                          Gender - Male

                                          Wish U all the best

                                          Sunaparantha







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                                          Dear Mr.Ajoy, Congrats! Sorry for the delayed wishes as I was not in town for 4 days! Your analysis was in Depth and sensible approach ! AND MY WISHES FOR YOUR
                                          Message 20 of 21 , Jan 17, 2009
                                            Dear Mr.Ajoy,

                                            Congrats!

                                            Sorry for the delayed wishes as I was not in town for 4 days!
                                            Your analysis was in Depth and sensible approach !

                                            AND MY WISHES FOR YOUR HATRIC !

                                            Regards
                                            Adith

                                            On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:00 AM, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@...> wrote:



                                            Dear Mr. Sunaparanthaji,

                                            The quiz put by you was indeed a brain storming and tricky one. Please find attached the birth chart of the child and the analysis below.

                                            1)  6th , 8th and 2nd sublord Mercury  is significator of 7, 6 , 4 , 11 , 3 , 12. Mercury is in its own sub hence strongly signifies the above houses.

                                            2) 12th sublord Ketu signifies 6 , 12 , 3 , 12 . Ketu is also in sub of mercury and hence supports ketu in signifying 3 , 6 , 12.

                                            3) Asc sublord Rahu signifies 4 , 6 & 1. Rahu is in sub of Saturn signifying 5 , 2 , 2

                                            Mercury, sublord of 6 signifying 6 suggests disease & signifying 12 suggests hospitalization. Mercury is also sublord of 2nd and since it signifies 12 , suggests medical expenses. 

                                            The Disease
                                            :

                                            I consider the star lord of the 6th cusp as the strong pointer of the disease. Here Venus is the star lord of the 6th cusp denoting reproductory organs. Further more venus is in the 7th house denoting GENITALS.

                                            6th and 8th sublord Mercury is in sign of jupiter denoting the lower hip region. Jupiter also denotes fluid. Mercury being sublord of 6th denotes MORBID GROWTHS AND/OR ENLARGEMENTS. A peculiar thing about the chart is that both 6th and 8th house are in dual sign.  6th sublord mercury is a dual planet. 6th sublord itself is in a dual sign. (more than one). Jupiter in sign and sub of saturn shows restriction in flow.

                                            THE CHILD WOULD BE HAVING ENLARGEMENT OR MORBID GROWTH OF THE GENITALS. THERE IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY OF THE CHILD HAVING NO OR IMPROPER  ANAL OPENING FOR  PASSAGE OF STOOL.

                                            The Cure :

                                            1) Lord of ASC not afflicted with malefics - so good health
                                            2) Asc not in star of lord of 6th and 8th - so sufficient immunity and resistance
                                            3) Sublord of Asc is in star of Asc lord moon - the child would not be perpetually sick
                                            4) If significator of 5 is also significator of 11 cure is confirmed


                                            Cure When :

                                            The disease pointer Venus is in the star of Mars so surgery is sure. And since mars is in the sub of Asc lord surgery would be sucessful. The cure will happen during the joint period of significators of 1, 5, 11.

                                            SAT-VEN-SUN-MOON  - 4th mar to 9th mar 2009  OR
                                            SAT-VEN-SUN-MERCURY - 8th april to 16th april.

                                            Since the above period also signifies 3 and 12 , the child would probabely be operated out of  his home town.



                                            regards,
                                            AJOY





                                            --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...> wrote:
                                            From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@...>
                                            Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                            Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:48 PM

                                            Dear Friends,

                                             

                                            An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                                            On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                                             

                                            While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                                             

                                            Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                                             

                                            As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                                             

                                            The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                                             

                                            Question

                                             This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                                            1.1. What is the disorder?

                                                     1.2. Is it curable?

                                            1.3. If so when?

                                             

                                            Birth detail of the Baby

                                            DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                                            TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                                            POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                                            Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                                            Gender - Male

                                             

                                            Wish U all the best

                                            Sunaparantha

                                             

                                             

                                             




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                                            Dear Adith, Thanks for the appreciation. And even more for the wishes. Regards, Ajoy Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone Essar ... From: adith kasinath.g.k
                                            Message 21 of 21 , Jan 18, 2009

                                              Dear Adith,

                                              Thanks for the appreciation. And even more for the wishes.

                                              Regards,
                                              Ajoy

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                                              From: "adith kasinath.g.k"
                                              Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:06:56 +0530
                                              To: <k_p_system@yahoogroups.com>
                                              Subject: Re: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02

                                              Dear Mr.Ajoy,

                                              Congrats!

                                              Sorry for the delayed wishes as I was not in town for 4 days!
                                              Your analysis was in Depth and sensible approach !

                                              AND MY WISHES FOR YOUR HATRIC !

                                              Regards
                                              Adith

                                              On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:00 AM, ajoy s. chomaal <ajoy_matchless@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:



                                              Dear Mr. Sunaparanthaji,

                                              The quiz put by you was indeed a brain storming and tricky one. Please find attached the birth chart of the child and the analysis below.

                                              1)  6th , 8th and 2nd sublord Mercury  is significator of 7, 6 , 4 , 11 , 3 , 12. Mercury is in its own sub hence strongly signifies the above houses.

                                              2) 12th sublord Ketu signifies 6 , 12 , 3 , 12 . Ketu is also in sub of mercury and hence supports ketu in signifying 3 , 6 , 12.

                                              3) Asc sublord Rahu signifies 4 , 6 & 1. Rahu is in sub of Saturn signifying 5 , 2 , 2

                                              Mercury, sublord of 6 signifying 6 suggests disease & signifying 12 suggests hospitalization. Mercury is also sublord of 2nd and since it signifies 12 , suggests medical expenses. 

                                              The Disease
                                              :

                                              I consider the star lord of the 6th cusp as the strong pointer of the disease. Here Venus is the star lord of the 6th cusp denoting reproductory organs. Further more venus is in the 7th house denoting GENITALS.

                                              6th and 8th sublord Mercury is in sign of jupiter denoting the lower hip region. Jupiter also denotes fluid. Mercury being sublord of 6th denotes MORBID GROWTHS AND/OR ENLARGEMENTS. A peculiar thing about the chart is that both 6th and 8th house are in dual sign.  6th sublord mercury is a dual planet. 6th sublord itself is in a dual sign. (more than one). Jupiter in sign and sub of saturn shows restriction in flow.

                                              THE CHILD WOULD BE HAVING ENLARGEMENT OR MORBID GROWTH OF THE GENITALS. THERE IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY OF THE CHILD HAVING NO OR IMPROPER  ANAL OPENING FOR  PASSAGE OF STOOL.

                                              The Cure :

                                              1) Lord of ASC not afflicted with malefics - so good health
                                              2) Asc not in star of lord of 6th and 8th - so sufficient immunity and resistance
                                              3) Sublord of Asc is in star of Asc lord moon - the child would not be perpetually sick
                                              4) If significator of 5 is also significator of 11 cure is confirmed


                                              Cure When :

                                              The disease pointer Venus is in the star of Mars so surgery is sure. And since mars is in the sub of Asc lord surgery would be sucessful. The cure will happen during the joint period of significators of 1, 5, 11.

                                              SAT-VEN-SUN- MOON  - 4th mar to 9th mar 2009  OR
                                              SAT-VEN-SUN- MERCURY - 8th april to 16th april.

                                              Since the above period also signifies 3 and 12 , the child would probabely be operated out of  his home town.



                                              regards,
                                              AJOY





                                              --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                              From: Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ yahoo.com>
                                              Subject: [k_p_system] Test our Expertise -No.02
                                              Date: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 6:48 PM

                                              Dear Friends,

                                               

                                              An interesting and educational test has been finished.

                                              On the ground of the education of KP System, it is a more valuable exercise than to a test. As such all of us must salute to Adith ji once again.

                                               

                                              While I am looking for an opinion to make a decision for an uncommon featured baby, whose Birth time was received by me last night, decided to table for you to analyze.

                                               

                                              Though this in the face of test, this will be a great task, as I have never come across any text in KP literature which I have undergone so far such a case study. So this is neither a trial nor test. I kindly request all the members including  Seniors and Gurujis  to make a thorough analyse in this chart and post them for a discussion later on, in connection with this type of cases to improve our ability of analysing.

                                               

                                              As this is an extraordinary exercise, I think it will take some times to make a conclusion and to see the answer, the time period for the answers should be about seven days from 08th Jan.2009.

                                               

                                              The correct answer will be posted on the 15th Jan.2009.

                                               

                                              Question

                                               This baby was born with a critical physical disorder.

                                              1.1. What is the disorder?

                                                       1.2. Is it curable?

                                              1.3. If so when?

                                               

                                              Birth detail of the Baby

                                              DOB  -  24. 12. 2008

                                              TOB  -  9.14 pm ( As given by the parents. Any rectification may be allowed.)

                                              POB   - Ragama, Sri Lanka  Long.79.55  -  Lat. 07.01

                                              Time Zone - 5.5 hrs

                                              Gender - Male

                                               

                                              Wish U all the best

                                              Sunaparantha

                                               

                                               

                                               




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