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Re: [HARC] Re: [MichiganFoxHunter] For all the tower climbers out there, safety first

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  • John Hanse
    Try northern safety I just bought a 3m harness for about 69 bucks. Front, back, and side D rings. John Hanse
    Message 1 of 2 , Apr 14, 2013
      Try northern safety I just bought a 3m harness for about 69 bucks. Front, back, and side D rings.

      John Hanse

      On Apr 14, 2013, at 14:15, Alan Beagley <ajbeagley@...> wrote:

      > I assume that HARC still has the DBI Sala harness I donated. I had
      > bought it on eBay when I was planning to buy a tower I would need to
      > climb, but I subsequently decided on a tilt-over crank-up.
      > 73
      > Alan NV8A
      > On 04/14/13 09:57 am, Mark wrote:
      >> Thanks for thinking of our safety, but the harnesses that are covered in the
      >> brochure are not meant for tower climbing. They are designed for fall
      >> protection at construction sites. I have spent many hours wearing them (and
      >> cursing at them because they are a royal PITA to try to work in….but are
      >> proven life savers)
      >> Below is a pic of a true tower harness. Note the D ring is in the front,
      >> not the back. Also note the extra side rings.
      >> Tower Climbing Harness Removable Seat 1113193
      >> http://www.towerclimbing.com/
      >> It’s pretty much the same for any harness though, if it looks bad, it is
      >> bad.
      >> A HUGE safety concern is the straight out determination of the integrity of
      >> the tower. Who here is really qualified (as in training and experience) to
      >> determine if a tower is safe to climb or not? Tube type towers tend to
      >> rust from the inside. They may look fine on the outside, but can crumble
      >> under the added weight of a climber, and when that happens, harnesses aren’t
      >> much good.
      >> My advice, coming from many years of both construction work and ham radio
      >> operations, is simply don’t climb towers. I don’t know of a single
      >> privately owned ham tower too tall to use a man lift on. I have been on
      >> them that were rated for 135 feet. Sure, they are expensive buggers, but
      >> what is a life worth? Remember, the right equipment to climb the tower isn’
      >> t cheap, either. The harness above is about $500. Then you need the other
      >> stuff that goes with it, and if you use it a few times, it will likely not
      >> pass the stringent inspections for safety applied to climbing harnesses and
      >> you will have to get a new one. You still have to wear a harness in the man
      >> lift, but they are the type in the brochure. They may also be available for
      >> rent at the place the man lift is rented from. Lucky me, I have access to a
      >> couple bucket trucks and am in good favor with their owners. There will be
      >> no climbing of towers at this QTH.
      >> Thanks Tom, for your concern, but the flyer you sent really is not
      >> applicable to climbing harnesses. Tom is right on the money with the root
      >> of his concern, though, as tower accidents are probably the #1 cause of
      >> fatality amongst our likes. Besides falls, contact with electrical lines
      >> are a potentially fatal hazard. I hear about those from two fronts.
      >> Besides being a ham, I am a licensed electrician. I also have OHSA 10 and
      >> OSHA 30 training. Those graphically show the results of falls and
      >> electrocutions. So I am a bit more exposed to the risks and results
      >> associated with the reward of saving a few bucks.
      >> Stay safe, all
      >> 73
      >> Mark K8MHZ
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com
      >> [mailto:MichiganFoxHunter@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tom KD8DEG
      >> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:06 PM
      >> To: WMSAT@yahoogroups.com; WestMichiganHams@yahoogroups.com;
      >> W8USA@yahoogroups.com; MichiganFoxHunter yahoogroup;
      >> kalamazoohamradio@yahoogroups.com; k8daa@yahoogroups.com;
      >> HollandARCyahoogroups; GRARA@yahoogroups.com
      >> Subject: [MichiganFoxHunter] For all the tower climbers out there, safety
      >> first
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