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  • timgerr
    ... an ... someware? Here ... src= json.js ... Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read better. Here is the biggest question that
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      --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@...>
      wrote:
      >
      > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@> wrote:
      > >
      > > I am trying to work some examples from
      > > http://www.devpro.it/JSON/files/JSON-js.html and I keep getting
      an
      > > error "JSON is not defined." Do I have to declaire if
      someware? Here
      > > is the code that I am trying.
      > >
      > >
      > > <html>
      > > <head>
      > > <title>Learn Json v.01</title>
      > > <script type="text/javascript"
      src="json.js"></script>
      > > <script type="text/javascript"
      > > src="prototype.js"></script>
      > > <script type="text/javascript">
      > > var arr = JSON.decode('[1,2,3]');
      > > alert(arr); // 1,2,3
      > > </script>
      > >
      > >
      > > </head>
      > > </html>
      > >
      > > I have no ide what is wrong, thanks for your time.
      > >
      > > -T
      > >
      >
      > The page reads:
      >
      > Dependencies
      > JSONError.js
      >
      > I guess you need that file included too...
      >


      Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read better.
      Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a string

      var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
      Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};

      Can I decode this back into an object?

      Thanks again for the help,
      -T
    • marcrbraincast
      ... ... the var test is already an object. It s an object with one array which holds 4 objects. var str = { output :[ name : Michelle ]} ; would make a
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        --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@...> wrote:
        >
        <cut>
        > >
        > > The page reads:
        > >
        > > Dependencies
        > > JSONError.js
        > >
        > > I guess you need that file included too...
        > >
        >
        >
        > Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read better.
        > Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a string
        >
        > var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
        > Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};
        >
        > Can I decode this back into an object?
        >
        > Thanks again for the help,
        > -T
        >

        the var test is already an object.
        It's an object with one array which holds 4 objects.

        var str = "{'output':['name':'Michelle']}";
        would make a string...
      • marcrbraincast
        woops... ... var str = { output :[{ name : Michelle }]} ; would make a string...
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          woops...
          >
          var str = "{'output':[{'name':'Michelle'}]}";
          would make a string...
        • timgerr
          ... better. ... string ... I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that
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            --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@...>
            wrote:
            >
            > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@> wrote:
            > >
            > <cut>
            > > >
            > > > The page reads:
            > > >
            > > > Dependencies
            > > > JSONError.js
            > > >
            > > > I guess you need that file included too...
            > > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read
            better.
            > > Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a
            string
            > >
            > > var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
            > > Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};
            > >
            > > Can I decode this back into an object?
            > >
            > > Thanks again for the help,
            > > -T
            > >
            >
            > the var test is already an object.
            > It's an object with one array which holds 4 objects.
            >
            > var str = "{'output':['name':'Michelle']}";
            > would make a string...
            >


            I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with
            ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
            JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
            would like to take this returned string
            {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
            {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
            and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?

            Thanks for the help,
            -T
          • Dan Joseph
            I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with ... I think you might be looking for eval(). Here is what I do with my json requests: {
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              I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with

              > ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
              > JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
              > would like to take this returned string
              > {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
              > {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
              > and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?
              >
              > _._,___
              >


              ---------------------

              I think you might be looking for eval(). Here is what I do with my json
              requests:

              { "errors" :
              [
              { "code" : "OK" }
              ];
              "cells" :
              [';
              { "cell" : "none" }
              ] }

              var j = eval('('+ xmlhttp.responseText +')');

              And then they are accessible in the form of: j.errors[0].code so if I do an
              alert( j.errors[0].code ); I'd get OK (the value of code). I'm pretty new
              to this also, so you may want to take my brief example and search around
              yahoo and google for a similar more in depth tutorial.

              --
              -Dan Joseph

              "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
              Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."


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            • marcrbraincast
              ... I do an ... pretty new ... Hi Guys, That would mean that you are letting javascript evaluating possible unsafe json... thats why you should either use
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                --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Joseph" <dmjoseph@...> wrote:
                >
                > I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with
                >
                > > ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
                > > JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
                > > would like to take this returned string
                > > {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
                > > {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
                > > and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?
                > >
                > > _._,___
                > >
                >
                >
                > ---------------------
                >
                > I think you might be looking for eval(). Here is what I do with my json
                > requests:
                >
                > { "errors" :
                > [
                > { "code" : "OK" }
                > ];
                > "cells" :
                > [';
                > { "cell" : "none" }
                > ] }
                >
                > var j = eval('('+ xmlhttp.responseText +')');
                >
                > And then they are accessible in the form of: j.errors[0].code so if
                I do an
                > alert( j.errors[0].code ); I'd get OK (the value of code). I'm
                pretty new
                > to this also, so you may want to take my brief example and search around
                > yahoo and google for a similar more in depth tutorial.
                >
                > --
                > -Dan Joseph
                >
                > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
                > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >

                Hi Guys,

                That would mean that you are letting javascript evaluating possible
                unsafe json... thats why you should either use json.js from Douglas
                (http://www.json.org/json.js) or the JSON.js from devpro.it...

                If the json object/string is safe because you are generating it or it
                comes from a safe source... then by all means use eval()...

                I am unfamiliar with the JSON.js library so I would say give it a go
                with the JSONError.js in there as well... if it still gives problems
                you might want to use http://www.jslint.com/lint.html to check the
                json... otherwise, why don't you ask the guy from devpro.it?

                And then there's always the possibility to just post as much code as
                you are willing to share with the json so we can test it and see what
                errors you are getting ;p
              • Mark Ireland
                For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this: { totalItems :40, itemsFound :2, UNIQUEIDS :[ js63013 , js63009 ],
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                  For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:

                  {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2, "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                  "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                  {"A1 Services",
                  "CEO",
                  "Jane Jones",
                  "800-555-2121",
                  "janejones@..."},

                  "js63009":{"Acme",
                  "President",
                  "John Smith",
                  "800-555-1212",
                  "johnsmith@..."}
                  ]}


                  rather than this:

                  {SalesDatabase2:
                  {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                  {Company:"A1 Services",
                  Title:"CEO",
                  Name:"Jane Jones",
                  Phone:"800-555-2121",
                  Email:"janejones@..."},

                  {Company:"Acme",
                  Title:"President",
                  Name:"John Smith",
                  Phone:"800-555-1212",
                  Email:"johnsmith@..."}
                  ]}
                  }

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                • marcrbraincast
                  ... UNIQUEIDS :[ js63013 , js63009 ], ...
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                    --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@...> wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    > For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:
                    >
                    > {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2,
                    "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                    > "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                    > {"A1 Services",
                    > "CEO",
                    > "Jane Jones",
                    > "800-555-2121",
                    > "janejones@..."},
                    >
                    > "js63009":{"Acme",
                    > "President",
                    > "John Smith",
                    > "800-555-1212",
                    > "johnsmith@..."}
                    > ]}
                    >
                    >
                    > rather than this:
                    >
                    > {SalesDatabase2:
                    > {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                    > {Company:"A1 Services",
                    > Title:"CEO",
                    > Name:"Jane Jones",
                    > Phone:"800-555-2121",
                    > Email:"janejones@..."},
                    >
                    > {Company:"Acme",
                    > Title:"President",
                    > Name:"John Smith",
                    > Phone:"800-555-1212",
                    > Email:"johnsmith@..."}
                    > ]}
                    > }
                    >
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                    Then it would probably become something like this:

                    {"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                    Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                    s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                    Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}

                    But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                    don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                    difficult to get the value's form.
                  • marcrbraincast
                    ... Planet ...
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                      --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:
                      > >
                      > > {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2,
                      > "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                      > > "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                      > > {"A1 Services",
                      > > "CEO",
                      > > "Jane Jones",
                      > > "800-555-2121",
                      > > "janejones@"},
                      > >
                      > > "js63009":{"Acme",
                      > > "President",
                      > > "John Smith",
                      > > "800-555-1212",
                      > > "johnsmith@"}
                      > > ]}
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > rather than this:
                      > >
                      > > {SalesDatabase2:
                      > > {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                      > > {Company:"A1 Services",
                      > > Title:"CEO",
                      > > Name:"Jane Jones",
                      > > Phone:"800-555-2121",
                      > > Email:"janejones@"},
                      > >
                      > > {Company:"Acme",
                      > > Title:"President",
                      > > Name:"John Smith",
                      > > Phone:"800-555-1212",
                      > > Email:"johnsmith@"}
                      > > ]}
                      > > }
                      > >
                      > > _________________________________________________________________
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                      > > guides.
                      > >
                      >
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                      > >
                      >
                      > Then it would probably become something like this:
                      >
                      >
                      {"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                      > Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                      > s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                      > Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                      >
                      > But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                      > don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                      > difficult to get the value's form.
                      >

                      grrr.... let's try that again... :/


                      {"totalItems":40,
                      "itemsFound":2,
                      "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                      "columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],
                      "items":{"js63013":
                      ["A1 Services","CEO","Jane Jones",
                      "800-555-2121","janejones@..."],
                      "js63009":
                      [" Acme","President","John Smith",
                      "800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                    • Don Owens
                      Do you mean the other way around? I.e., using unquoted keys? The JSON spec says that the keys must be quoted. The reason for this is that there is a bug in
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                        Do you mean the other way around? I.e., using unquoted keys? The
                        JSON spec says that the keys must be quoted. The reason for this is
                        that there is a bug in Javascript where it will treat a key as a
                        keyword if it is unquoted and matches a keyword. Javascript is not
                        smart enough to realize it should not be treating the key as a keyword.


                        --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:
                        >
                        > {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2,
                        "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                        > "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                        > {"A1 Services",
                        > "CEO",
                        > "Jane Jones",
                        > "800-555-2121",
                        > "janejones@..."},
                        >
                        > "js63009":{"Acme",
                        > "President",
                        > "John Smith",
                        > "800-555-1212",
                        > "johnsmith@..."}
                        > ]}
                        >
                        >
                        > rather than this:
                        >
                        > {SalesDatabase2:
                        > {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                        > {Company:"A1 Services",
                        > Title:"CEO",
                        > Name:"Jane Jones",
                        > Phone:"800-555-2121",
                        > Email:"janejones@..."},
                        >
                        > {Company:"Acme",
                        > Title:"President",
                        > Name:"John Smith",
                        > Phone:"800-555-1212",
                        > Email:"johnsmith@..."}
                        > ]}
                        > }
                        >
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                      • Don Owens
                        Yes, via the parseJSON method called on a string (see http://www.json.org/json.js). Don t use eval() unless the JSON is from a trusted source, i.e., you know
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                          Yes, via the parseJSON method called on a string (see
                          http://www.json.org/json.js). Don't use eval() unless the JSON is
                          from a trusted source, i.e., you know there are no function calls in
                          there.


                          --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@>
                          > wrote:
                          > >
                          > > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > <cut>
                          > > > >
                          > > > > The page reads:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Dependencies
                          > > > > JSONError.js
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I guess you need that file included too...
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read
                          > better.
                          > > > Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a
                          > string
                          > > >
                          > > > var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
                          > > > Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};
                          > > >
                          > > > Can I decode this back into an object?
                          > > >
                          > > > Thanks again for the help,
                          > > > -T
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > > the var test is already an object.
                          > > It's an object with one array which holds 4 objects.
                          > >
                          > > var str = "{'output':['name':'Michelle']}";
                          > > would make a string...
                          > >
                          >
                          >
                          > I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with
                          > ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
                          > JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
                          > would like to take this returned string
                          > {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
                          > {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
                          > and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?
                          >
                          > Thanks for the help,
                          > -T
                          >
                        • Mark Ireland
                          Somewhat smaller? I was thinking a large object would be shrunk by half because there would be no repetition of the columnnames everywhere. . ... And I thought
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                            Somewhat smaller? I was thinking a large object would be shrunk by half
                            because there would be no repetition of the columnnames everywhere. . ...

                            And I thought my idea would make getting a value as easy as

                            myJSON["js63009"].Company

                            I suppose the list of columnnames could be an array since people would
                            propbably make it into one so they can loop over it?

                            >Then it would probably become something like this:
                            >
                            >{"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                            >Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                            >s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                            >Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                            >
                            >But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                            >don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                            >difficult to get the value's form.
                            >
                            >

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                          • marcrbraincast
                            Okay, fair enough... it will get smaller... You could indeed loose the list of columns and even the UNIQUEIDS and the totalItems... Not sure what the
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                              Okay, fair enough... it will get smaller...
                              You could indeed loose the list of columns and even the UNIQUEIDS and
                              the totalItems...

                              Not sure what the itemsFound does...


                              var j = {"itemsFound":2,
                              "items":[
                              {"js63013":["A1 Services","CEO","Jane
                              Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@..."]},
                              {"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                              Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}
                              ]
                              };
                              window.onload = function(){
                              var txt = "";
                              var col = j.items;
                              var totalitems = j.items.length;
                              for (var i=0;i<totalitems;i++){
                              for (j in col[i]){
                              txt += col[i][j] + " \n";
                              }

                              }
                              alert(totalitems + "\n" + txt);
                              }







                              --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@...> wrote:
                              >
                              >
                              > Somewhat smaller? I was thinking a large object would be shrunk by half
                              > because there would be no repetition of the columnnames everywhere.
                              . ...
                              >
                              > And I thought my idea would make getting a value as easy as
                              >
                              > myJSON["js63009"].Company
                              >
                              > I suppose the list of columnnames could be an array since people would
                              > propbably make it into one so they can loop over it?
                              >
                              > >Then it would probably become something like this:
                              > >
                              >
                              >{"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                              > >Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                              > >s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                              > >Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                              > >
                              > >But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                              > >don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                              > >difficult to get the value's form.
                              > >
                              > >
                              >
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