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Hello all I am new to json so I have a few questions

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  • timgerr
    I am trying to work some examples from http://www.devpro.it/JSON/files/JSON-js.html and I keep getting an error JSON is not defined. Do I have to declaire
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      I am trying to work some examples from
      http://www.devpro.it/JSON/files/JSON-js.html and I keep getting an
      error "JSON is not defined." Do I have to declaire if someware? Here
      is the code that I am trying.


      <html>
      <head>
      <title>Learn Json v.01</title>
      <script type="text/javascript" src="json.js"></script>
      <script type="text/javascript"
      src="prototype.js"></script>
      <script type="text/javascript">
      var arr = JSON.decode('[1,2,3]');
      alert(arr); // 1,2,3
      </script>


      </head>
      </html>

      I have no ide what is wrong, thanks for your time.

      -T
    • marcrbraincast
      ... The page reads: Dependencies JSONError.js I guess you need that file included too...
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        --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@...> wrote:
        >
        > I am trying to work some examples from
        > http://www.devpro.it/JSON/files/JSON-js.html and I keep getting an
        > error "JSON is not defined." Do I have to declaire if someware? Here
        > is the code that I am trying.
        >
        >
        > <html>
        > <head>
        > <title>Learn Json v.01</title>
        > <script type="text/javascript" src="json.js"></script>
        > <script type="text/javascript"
        > src="prototype.js"></script>
        > <script type="text/javascript">
        > var arr = JSON.decode('[1,2,3]');
        > alert(arr); // 1,2,3
        > </script>
        >
        >
        > </head>
        > </html>
        >
        > I have no ide what is wrong, thanks for your time.
        >
        > -T
        >

        The page reads:

        Dependencies
        JSONError.js

        I guess you need that file included too...
      • timgerr
        ... an ... someware? Here ... src= json.js ... Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read better. Here is the biggest question that
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          --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@...>
          wrote:
          >
          > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@> wrote:
          > >
          > > I am trying to work some examples from
          > > http://www.devpro.it/JSON/files/JSON-js.html and I keep getting
          an
          > > error "JSON is not defined." Do I have to declaire if
          someware? Here
          > > is the code that I am trying.
          > >
          > >
          > > <html>
          > > <head>
          > > <title>Learn Json v.01</title>
          > > <script type="text/javascript"
          src="json.js"></script>
          > > <script type="text/javascript"
          > > src="prototype.js"></script>
          > > <script type="text/javascript">
          > > var arr = JSON.decode('[1,2,3]');
          > > alert(arr); // 1,2,3
          > > </script>
          > >
          > >
          > > </head>
          > > </html>
          > >
          > > I have no ide what is wrong, thanks for your time.
          > >
          > > -T
          > >
          >
          > The page reads:
          >
          > Dependencies
          > JSONError.js
          >
          > I guess you need that file included too...
          >


          Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read better.
          Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a string

          var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
          Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};

          Can I decode this back into an object?

          Thanks again for the help,
          -T
        • marcrbraincast
          ... ... the var test is already an object. It s an object with one array which holds 4 objects. var str = { output :[ name : Michelle ]} ; would make a
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            --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@...> wrote:
            >
            <cut>
            > >
            > > The page reads:
            > >
            > > Dependencies
            > > JSONError.js
            > >
            > > I guess you need that file included too...
            > >
            >
            >
            > Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read better.
            > Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a string
            >
            > var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
            > Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};
            >
            > Can I decode this back into an object?
            >
            > Thanks again for the help,
            > -T
            >

            the var test is already an object.
            It's an object with one array which holds 4 objects.

            var str = "{'output':['name':'Michelle']}";
            would make a string...
          • marcrbraincast
            woops... ... var str = { output :[{ name : Michelle }]} ; would make a string...
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              woops...
              >
              var str = "{'output':[{'name':'Michelle'}]}";
              would make a string...
            • timgerr
              ... better. ... string ... I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that
              Message 6 of 15 , Jun 27, 2007
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                --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@...>
                wrote:
                >
                > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@> wrote:
                > >
                > <cut>
                > > >
                > > > The page reads:
                > > >
                > > > Dependencies
                > > > JSONError.js
                > > >
                > > > I guess you need that file included too...
                > > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read
                better.
                > > Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a
                string
                > >
                > > var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
                > > Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};
                > >
                > > Can I decode this back into an object?
                > >
                > > Thanks again for the help,
                > > -T
                > >
                >
                > the var test is already an object.
                > It's an object with one array which holds 4 objects.
                >
                > var str = "{'output':['name':'Michelle']}";
                > would make a string...
                >


                I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with
                ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
                JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
                would like to take this returned string
                {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
                {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
                and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?

                Thanks for the help,
                -T
              • Dan Joseph
                I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with ... I think you might be looking for eval(). Here is what I do with my json requests: {
                Message 7 of 15 , Jun 27, 2007
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                  I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with

                  > ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
                  > JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
                  > would like to take this returned string
                  > {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
                  > {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
                  > and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?
                  >
                  > _._,___
                  >


                  ---------------------

                  I think you might be looking for eval(). Here is what I do with my json
                  requests:

                  { "errors" :
                  [
                  { "code" : "OK" }
                  ];
                  "cells" :
                  [';
                  { "cell" : "none" }
                  ] }

                  var j = eval('('+ xmlhttp.responseText +')');

                  And then they are accessible in the form of: j.errors[0].code so if I do an
                  alert( j.errors[0].code ); I'd get OK (the value of code). I'm pretty new
                  to this also, so you may want to take my brief example and search around
                  yahoo and google for a similar more in depth tutorial.

                  --
                  -Dan Joseph

                  "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
                  Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."


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                • marcrbraincast
                  ... I do an ... pretty new ... Hi Guys, That would mean that you are letting javascript evaluating possible unsafe json... thats why you should either use
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                    --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Joseph" <dmjoseph@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with
                    >
                    > > ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
                    > > JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
                    > > would like to take this returned string
                    > > {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
                    > > {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
                    > > and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?
                    > >
                    > > _._,___
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    > ---------------------
                    >
                    > I think you might be looking for eval(). Here is what I do with my json
                    > requests:
                    >
                    > { "errors" :
                    > [
                    > { "code" : "OK" }
                    > ];
                    > "cells" :
                    > [';
                    > { "cell" : "none" }
                    > ] }
                    >
                    > var j = eval('('+ xmlhttp.responseText +')');
                    >
                    > And then they are accessible in the form of: j.errors[0].code so if
                    I do an
                    > alert( j.errors[0].code ); I'd get OK (the value of code). I'm
                    pretty new
                    > to this also, so you may want to take my brief example and search around
                    > yahoo and google for a similar more in depth tutorial.
                    >
                    > --
                    > -Dan Joseph
                    >
                    > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
                    > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
                    >
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >

                    Hi Guys,

                    That would mean that you are letting javascript evaluating possible
                    unsafe json... thats why you should either use json.js from Douglas
                    (http://www.json.org/json.js) or the JSON.js from devpro.it...

                    If the json object/string is safe because you are generating it or it
                    comes from a safe source... then by all means use eval()...

                    I am unfamiliar with the JSON.js library so I would say give it a go
                    with the JSONError.js in there as well... if it still gives problems
                    you might want to use http://www.jslint.com/lint.html to check the
                    json... otherwise, why don't you ask the guy from devpro.it?

                    And then there's always the possibility to just post as much code as
                    you are willing to share with the json so we can test it and see what
                    errors you are getting ;p
                  • Mark Ireland
                    For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this: { totalItems :40, itemsFound :2, UNIQUEIDS :[ js63013 , js63009 ],
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                      For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:

                      {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2, "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                      "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                      {"A1 Services",
                      "CEO",
                      "Jane Jones",
                      "800-555-2121",
                      "janejones@..."},

                      "js63009":{"Acme",
                      "President",
                      "John Smith",
                      "800-555-1212",
                      "johnsmith@..."}
                      ]}


                      rather than this:

                      {SalesDatabase2:
                      {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                      {Company:"A1 Services",
                      Title:"CEO",
                      Name:"Jane Jones",
                      Phone:"800-555-2121",
                      Email:"janejones@..."},

                      {Company:"Acme",
                      Title:"President",
                      Name:"John Smith",
                      Phone:"800-555-1212",
                      Email:"johnsmith@..."}
                      ]}
                      }

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                    • marcrbraincast
                      ... UNIQUEIDS :[ js63013 , js63009 ], ...
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                        --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:
                        >
                        > {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2,
                        "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                        > "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                        > {"A1 Services",
                        > "CEO",
                        > "Jane Jones",
                        > "800-555-2121",
                        > "janejones@..."},
                        >
                        > "js63009":{"Acme",
                        > "President",
                        > "John Smith",
                        > "800-555-1212",
                        > "johnsmith@..."}
                        > ]}
                        >
                        >
                        > rather than this:
                        >
                        > {SalesDatabase2:
                        > {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                        > {Company:"A1 Services",
                        > Title:"CEO",
                        > Name:"Jane Jones",
                        > Phone:"800-555-2121",
                        > Email:"janejones@..."},
                        >
                        > {Company:"Acme",
                        > Title:"President",
                        > Name:"John Smith",
                        > Phone:"800-555-1212",
                        > Email:"johnsmith@..."}
                        > ]}
                        > }
                        >
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                        >

                        Then it would probably become something like this:

                        {"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                        Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                        s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                        Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}

                        But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                        don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                        difficult to get the value's form.
                      • marcrbraincast
                        ... Planet ...
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                          --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:
                          > >
                          > > {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2,
                          > "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                          > > "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                          > > {"A1 Services",
                          > > "CEO",
                          > > "Jane Jones",
                          > > "800-555-2121",
                          > > "janejones@"},
                          > >
                          > > "js63009":{"Acme",
                          > > "President",
                          > > "John Smith",
                          > > "800-555-1212",
                          > > "johnsmith@"}
                          > > ]}
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > rather than this:
                          > >
                          > > {SalesDatabase2:
                          > > {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                          > > {Company:"A1 Services",
                          > > Title:"CEO",
                          > > Name:"Jane Jones",
                          > > Phone:"800-555-2121",
                          > > Email:"janejones@"},
                          > >
                          > > {Company:"Acme",
                          > > Title:"President",
                          > > Name:"John Smith",
                          > > Phone:"800-555-1212",
                          > > Email:"johnsmith@"}
                          > > ]}
                          > > }
                          > >
                          > > _________________________________________________________________
                          > > Advertisement: ninemsn Travel - Hot deals, travel ideas & Lonely
                          Planet
                          > > guides.
                          > >
                          >
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                          > >
                          >
                          > Then it would probably become something like this:
                          >
                          >
                          {"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                          > Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                          > s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                          > Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                          >
                          > But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                          > don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                          > difficult to get the value's form.
                          >

                          grrr.... let's try that again... :/


                          {"totalItems":40,
                          "itemsFound":2,
                          "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                          "columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],
                          "items":{"js63013":
                          ["A1 Services","CEO","Jane Jones",
                          "800-555-2121","janejones@..."],
                          "js63009":
                          [" Acme","President","John Smith",
                          "800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                        • Don Owens
                          Do you mean the other way around? I.e., using unquoted keys? The JSON spec says that the keys must be quoted. The reason for this is that there is a bug in
                          Message 12 of 15 , Jun 28, 2007
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                            Do you mean the other way around? I.e., using unquoted keys? The
                            JSON spec says that the keys must be quoted. The reason for this is
                            that there is a bug in Javascript where it will treat a key as a
                            keyword if it is unquoted and matches a keyword. Javascript is not
                            smart enough to realize it should not be treating the key as a keyword.


                            --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@...> wrote:
                            >
                            >
                            > For a smaller jsObject can there be a json variable like this:
                            >
                            > {"totalItems":40, "itemsFound":2,
                            "UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],
                            > "columnnames":["Company,Title,Name,Phone,Email"], items: ["js63013":
                            > {"A1 Services",
                            > "CEO",
                            > "Jane Jones",
                            > "800-555-2121",
                            > "janejones@..."},
                            >
                            > "js63009":{"Acme",
                            > "President",
                            > "John Smith",
                            > "800-555-1212",
                            > "johnsmith@..."}
                            > ]}
                            >
                            >
                            > rather than this:
                            >
                            > {SalesDatabase2:
                            > {totalItems:40, itemsFound:2, items: [
                            > {Company:"A1 Services",
                            > Title:"CEO",
                            > Name:"Jane Jones",
                            > Phone:"800-555-2121",
                            > Email:"janejones@..."},
                            >
                            > {Company:"Acme",
                            > Title:"President",
                            > Name:"John Smith",
                            > Phone:"800-555-1212",
                            > Email:"johnsmith@..."}
                            > ]}
                            > }
                            >
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                          • Don Owens
                            Yes, via the parseJSON method called on a string (see http://www.json.org/json.js). Don t use eval() unless the JSON is from a trusted source, i.e., you know
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                              Yes, via the parseJSON method called on a string (see
                              http://www.json.org/json.js). Don't use eval() unless the JSON is
                              from a trusted source, i.e., you know there are no function calls in
                              there.


                              --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "marcrbraincast" <marcrbraincast@>
                              > wrote:
                              > >
                              > > --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "timgerr" <tim.gallagher@> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > <cut>
                              > > > >
                              > > > > The page reads:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Dependencies
                              > > > > JSONError.js
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I guess you need that file included too...
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Thank you for the information, I guess that I need to read
                              > better.
                              > > > Here is the biggest question that I have, lets say I have a
                              > string
                              > > >
                              > > > var test = {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob
                              > > > Jones"},{"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]};
                              > > >
                              > > > Can I decode this back into an object?
                              > > >
                              > > > Thanks again for the help,
                              > > > -T
                              > > >
                              > >
                              > > the var test is already an object.
                              > > It's an object with one array which holds 4 objects.
                              > >
                              > > var str = "{'output':['name':'Michelle']}";
                              > > would make a string...
                              > >
                              >
                              >
                              > I am new to some of this so I might not be clear, I am woking with
                              > ajax and I am getting a string returned from another webpage that is
                              > JSON encoded. When I recieve it it is then consittered a string. I
                              > would like to take this returned string
                              > {"outPut":[{"name":"Michelle Gallagher"},{"name":"Bob Jones"},
                              > {"name":"tester"},{"name":"Administrator"}]}
                              > and put it back into a javascript object. Can I do that with decode?
                              >
                              > Thanks for the help,
                              > -T
                              >
                            • Mark Ireland
                              Somewhat smaller? I was thinking a large object would be shrunk by half because there would be no repetition of the columnnames everywhere. . ... And I thought
                              Message 14 of 15 , Jun 28, 2007
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                                Somewhat smaller? I was thinking a large object would be shrunk by half
                                because there would be no repetition of the columnnames everywhere. . ...

                                And I thought my idea would make getting a value as easy as

                                myJSON["js63009"].Company

                                I suppose the list of columnnames could be an array since people would
                                propbably make it into one so they can loop over it?

                                >Then it would probably become something like this:
                                >
                                >{"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                                >Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                                >s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                                >Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                                >
                                >But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                                >don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                                >difficult to get the value's form.
                                >
                                >

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                              • marcrbraincast
                                Okay, fair enough... it will get smaller... You could indeed loose the list of columns and even the UNIQUEIDS and the totalItems... Not sure what the
                                Message 15 of 15 , Jun 29, 2007
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                                  Okay, fair enough... it will get smaller...
                                  You could indeed loose the list of columns and even the UNIQUEIDS and
                                  the totalItems...

                                  Not sure what the itemsFound does...


                                  var j = {"itemsFound":2,
                                  "items":[
                                  {"js63013":["A1 Services","CEO","Jane
                                  Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@..."]},
                                  {"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                                  Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}
                                  ]
                                  };
                                  window.onload = function(){
                                  var txt = "";
                                  var col = j.items;
                                  var totalitems = j.items.length;
                                  for (var i=0;i<totalitems;i++){
                                  for (j in col[i]){
                                  txt += col[i][j] + " \n";
                                  }

                                  }
                                  alert(totalitems + "\n" + txt);
                                  }







                                  --- In json@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ireland" <markincuba@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Somewhat smaller? I was thinking a large object would be shrunk by half
                                  > because there would be no repetition of the columnnames everywhere.
                                  . ...
                                  >
                                  > And I thought my idea would make getting a value as easy as
                                  >
                                  > myJSON["js63009"].Company
                                  >
                                  > I suppose the list of columnnames could be an array since people would
                                  > propbably make it into one so they can loop over it?
                                  >
                                  > >Then it would probably become something like this:
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  >{"totalItems":40,"itemsFound":2,"UNIQUEIDS":["js63013","js63009"],"columnnames":["Company","Title","Name","Phone","Email"],"items":{"js63013":["A1
                                  > >Services","CEO","Jane Jones","800-555-2121","janejones@a1service
                                  > >s.com"],"js63009":[" Acme","President","John
                                  > >Smith","800-555-1212","johnsmith@acme. com"]}}
                                  > >
                                  > >But although that probably results in a somewhat smaller json string I
                                  > >don't really see a benefit, in fact, the object looks a lot more
                                  > >difficult to get the value's form.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  >
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