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Re: [John Muir Trail] bear condiment

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  • Mike Pust
    Sorry, but I m not a licensed guide. I d hate to get in trouble with the timber pimps. Try Sierra Mel for CA and Sawtooth Adventures for ID. They both have
    Message 1 of 6 , May 18, 2004
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      Sorry, but I'm not a licensed guide. I'd hate to get
      in trouble with the timber pimps. Try Sierra Mel for
      CA and Sawtooth Adventures for ID. They both have web
      sites. Good luck.
      --- thomas taylor <tgtaylor7@...> wrote:
      > > and another that will go 20 miles a day with 110
      > > pounds.
      >
      > 15 miles a day with 50lbs would suite me! Let me
      > know
      > the next time you're heading out with a llama to
      > spare.
      >
      > --- Mike Pust <mpust@...> wrote:
      > > Actually, I raise llamas. There are some packers
      > > who
      > > rent, and I've run into several people with rented
      > > llamas in both the Sierra and Sawtooth.
      > >
      > > By the way, I've discovered the hard way that not
      > > all
      > > llamas are created equal. I have one piece of
      > crap
      > > that wouldn't carry my lunch for more than five
      > > miles
      > > and another that will go 20 miles a day with 110
      > > pounds.
      > > --- thomas taylor <tgtaylor7@...> wrote:
      > > > > After three knee operations I now hike with
      > > llamas
      > > >
      > > > Where do you rent llamas and what is the charge?
      >
      > > > Hiking in the Sierra would be super cool if you
      > > > didn't
      > > > have to carry a pack.
      > > >
      > > > --- Mike Pust <mpust@...> wrote:
      > > > > After three knee operations I now hike with
      > > > llamas.
      > > > > I've had two bear/llama encounters in the
      > > Sierra,
      > > > > once
      > > > > on the JMT. Both times the llamas sounded
      > their
      > > > > alarm
      > > > > call, which sounds like a jackass with a bad
      > > case
      > > > of
      > > > > hiccups, and the bears ran away in apparent
      > > > terror.
      > > > > Can anyone comment on that phenomena?
      > > > > --- Ed Lulofs <elulofs@...> wrote:
      > > > > > I went to the Yukon 2 years ago where there
      > > are
      > > > > > brown(grizzly) bears.
      > > > > > We had to carry the spray and I read a lot
      > > about
      > > > > the
      > > > > > subject.
      > > > > > We were in a national park where the spray
      > was
      > > > > > required and guns were
      > > > > > not allowed.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > You have to hit the bear directly in the
      > eyes
      > > &
      > > > > nose
      > > > > > from 10-15 feet
      > > > > > for the spray to be effective!
      > > > > > Otherwise, it is diluted enough that-yes-
      > they
      > > > do
      > > > > > like it!
      > > > > >
      > > > > > But fortunately, bear danger is over rated
      > and
      > > > not
      > > > > > much of a problem.
      > > > > > Ed
      > > > > > --- johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com wrote:
      > > > > > > Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 07:54:43 -0700
      > > (PDT)
      > > > > > > From: Mike Pust <mpust@...>
      > > > > > > Subject: Re: bear spray
      > > > > > > Not that there are any in CA, but I
      > > understand
      > > > > > that
      > > > > > > grizzly consider bear spray to be a
      > > condiment.
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
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      > > >
      > > > Thomas
      > > >
      > > > Thomas Taylor
      > > > tgtaylor7@...
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      >
      > Thomas
      >
      > Thomas Taylor
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