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Re: [John Muir Trail] Bear canisters

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  • Mike Pust
    You can rent bear canisters for cheap, I think it was $3.00 per trip, from the national parks. I don t know about the Forest Service though. ... === message
    Message 1 of 34 , May 5, 2004
      You can rent bear canisters for cheap, I think it was
      $3.00 per trip, from the national parks. I don't know
      about the Forest Service though.
      --- kthroolin <kthroolin@...> wrote:
      > Is it hard to find the bear lockers on the JMT
      > trail?
      > For the permit for Mt Whitney it said to carry bear
      > canisters. So I
      > wonder if I should buy a couple canisters
      > I heard the Tioga road is plowed.
      > I worked on a trail crew in Kings Canyon National
      > Park. For 2 weeks
      > I worked on Mather Pass. It was later in the
      > season, but I remember
      > that it was steep.
      >
      > --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, thomas taylor
      > <tgtaylor7@y...>
      > wrote:
      > > You might want to check the map mileage again. On
      > > mine, the resort is at least 10-miles, one-way,
      > from
      > > the JMT on the Goodale pass trail and about 6 or
      > > 7-miles back to the JMT on the Bear Ridge Trail
      > which
      > > runs on the south side of the lake. So round-trip
      > > you're talkin' about 20-miles - 6-miles shy of a
      > > marathon. But if you ran a half-marathon last
      > week
      > > you're in good enough shape to cover that 20 miles
      > and
      > > the 212 - miles of the JMT! Go for it!
      > >
      > > By considering the Goodale pass route to the
      > resort I
      > > assume that you will be starting in the valley and
      > > heading south. If so, when you get up on Silver
      > pass
      > > you will see 3 possibilities of where the actual
      > pass
      > > is. The one one your left is clearly in the wrong
      > > direction. The one on your right, while in the
      > > correct direction, doesn't look like it will pan
      > out
      > > while the one in the center looks good. It's the
      > one
      > > on your right. The one in the center leads to an
      > > abysmal drop-off. The PCT'ers glissade down it
      > but
      > > going the other way you'll have to climb it.
      > That's
      > > not a problem though. Finding it is. Be prepared
      > for
      > > problems on Mather. The top is steep, somewhat
      > > exposed, and always snow-covered. The approach
      > from
      > > the north is easier than from the south but don't
      > try
      > > it in the morning when the snow is like slick ice
      > > without an ice-axe. Once, in mid season and
      > without
      > > an axe, I post holed near the top and lost my
      > balance
      > > and went head-first, on my back, down the side.
      > > However it was mid afternoon and the snow was soft
      > and
      > > I flipped over and got my head pointed back
      > up-hill
      > > and self arrested using my fingers and toes. Had
      > I
      > > not self-arrested, I seriously doubt if I would
      > have
      > > been injured,thanks to the soft snow, just merely
      > > inconvenienced by being a few hundred meters back
      > down
      > > the mountain again. On hard ice and without an
      > ice
      > > axe, I would have picked up speed and would have
      > ended
      > > up more than merely inconvenienced.
      > >
      > > Thomas
      > > --- Rene Aguilar <reneaguilar@s...> wrote:
      > > > Regarding maps of the JMT, I highly recommend
      > the
      > > > John Muir Trail Map Pack, which is readily
      > available
      > > > at most backpacking/outdoor specialty stores as
      > well
      > > > as online, such as REI.com and PCTA.org. The
      > map
      > > > pack was an invaluable source for me last
      > summer,
      > > > but if you plan on venturing off the trail,
      > > > additional topo maps will be needed.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > kthroolin <kthroolin@y...> wrote:
      > > > I called the owner earlier and he told me to
      > call
      > > > back in early May
      > > > to see if the resort would be open. If we cut
      > > > through Goodale Pass
      > > > and took the Goodale Pass trail then it only
      > adds
      > > > about 4 miles to
      > > > get to the Vermillion Resort.
      > > >
      > > > The library at the University has 13 nice topos
      > of
      > > > the John Muir
      > > > Trail. I have been trying to stay in good shape
      > > > last weekend I went
      > > > snowshoeing and the week before I ran a half
      > > > marathon.
      > > >
      > > > --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, thomas
      > taylor
      > > > <tgtaylor7@y...>
      > > > wrote:
      > > > > Now that's what I call getting an early start!
      > If
      > > > you
      > > > > start from Yosemite you'll probably have the
      > whole
      > > > > trail to yourselves. It's about 90 miles to
      > > > Vermilion
      > > > > from the valley and the resort may not be open
      > > > when
      > > > > you arrive in May. But if it is, you'll
      > surely
      > > > have
      > > > > 'run-of-house' because the PCT'ers will still
      > be 3
      > > > or
      > > > > 4 weeks south. Instead of the first beer being
      > > > free,
      > > > > you'll probably get the first 6-pack free! I
      > read
      > > > in
      > > > > an earlier posting on this site that the
      > resort
      > > > has a
      > > > > web site that you may be able to find thru
      > google.
      > > >
      > > > > They may be at the resort when you reach that
      > area
      > > > but
      > > > > if they are I seriously doubt if they will
      > have
      > > > > shuttle boat in operation. Try to contact
      > them
      > > > before
      > > > > you start to avoid a long hike around the lake
      > > > (and
      > > > > back) that doesn't pan out.
      > > > >
      > > > > I personally have never been on the trail that
      > > > early
      > > > > in the season but portions will surely be
      > > > snow-covered
      > > > > with big-time snow hanging in the passes,
      > > > especially
      > > > > on the north sides. As a minimum you will need
      > > > > compass, good maps,excellent route-finding
      > skills,
      > > > and
      > > > > be in excellent physical condition. I read
      > that
      > > > the
      > > > > recently deceased California photographer
      > Galen
      > > > Rowell
      > > > > once did a winter traverse of the JMT on skies
      > but
      > > > to
      > > > > date I haven't run across any write-up on that
      > > > trip.
      > > > >
      > > > > Good luck on it! You're in for a real treat,
      > and
      > > > NO
      > > > > mosquito's! (Well, maybe a few at the end so
      > > > you'll
      > > > > need to pack a little deet.) If you're
      > > > successfully
      > > > > or not please post a trip report. I for one
      > would
      > > > be
      > > > > interested in learning what you encountered
      > that
      > > > early
      > > > > in the season on the JMT.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- Kathryn Throolin <kthroolin@y...> wrote:
      > > > > > Hey I just received an email saying that I
      > have
      > > > been
      > > > > > accepted into the John Muir trail groups.
      > My
      > > > freind
      >
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    • kblovold
      Thanks for the helpful input and sorry for the incorrect spelling of consensus.
      Message 34 of 34 , Mar 31, 2013
        Thanks for the helpful input and sorry for the incorrect spelling of consensus.
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