Re: [John Muir Trail] Where does the stove go?
- I think you can safely leave a water-boiling JetBoil on the ground outside
the tent. In fact, I've never had a problem even with a JetBoil that has
just cooked a dinner of rice, beans and bacon fat.
Nor have I had problems with cooking utensils.
For sure, leave suntan lotion in the bearcan. I'm not convinced about the
bears, but mice and chipmunks can easily chew a hold in your suntan lotion
bottle and then you're cooked.
DEET apparently can damage some bearcans. Leave it out..
The idea of leaving noisy stuff on top of the bearcan sounds like a good
idea to me. Never thought of it. Thanks, group.
I sleep in a bivy, so nothing but me and my boots fits inside the "tent".
Mice and chipmunks are a bigger (or at least more frequent) danger to your
backpack than bears. I usually bring a long thin nylon cord and free-hang
my back (everything open) from a tree branch just enuf to keep it 4-6 ft off
the ground. Won't protect it from a bear, but generally keeps most mice
away,. That way they don't chew thru your straps. You leave all the
pockets open in hopes that any mouse who figures out how to get to the bag
does not need to chew it open in order to explore it.
Things that need to stay dry (like socks and daytime clothes) go in the
waterproof compression sack (that holds my sleeping bag during the day) if
there looks to be any danger of rain. If not, they go in the hanging pack.
If no trees available to hang the bag, the pack goes on the ground.
Any piece of clothing that has your sweat on it is likely to attract mice.
So I put them in the hanging pack or inside the compression bag. So far no
mouse has attempted to chew the the bag to get at my salt (though I worry
John Curran Ladd
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Joyce Bennis <joyce@...> wrote:
> After reading all the threads on where to store packs, cookware, bear
> canisters, etc. at night on the trail I still have one question. Based on
> the discussion, I think I understand that:
> (1) we should store all food, garbage and/or other scented items in the
> bear canister a safe distance from the tent. No need to hang it, but we
> should be careful that it's not in a spot where it could easily get lost if
> a bear tries to move it. We should try to mark it or paint it with a neon
> color of some sort to make it easier to spot if it does get moved.
> (2) Since our packs are pretty key to a successful hike, it might be best
> to keep them in our tent at night (stripped, of course, of all scented
> material) "just in case." Some folks do, some folks don't.
> But I'm still unclear about where it's best to store cooking and eating
> utensils (washed) and the stove. We use the "freezer bag" cooking approach,
> so our Jetboil stove is only used for boiling water and the only
> dishes/utensils we use are sporks. Is it safe to store those in our tent?
> And is it necessary or would they be just as safe outside the tent? We'd be
> in a world of hurt if the stove was damaged or lost, and it won't fit in
> Thanks in advance for any advice..we're experienced Colorado mountain
> hikers, but we hear the Sierra bears are a lot smarter and more curious!
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