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  • jyeider
    These kind of topics come up from time to time. The wilderness belongs to all that use it. Just because we love to backpack shouldn t suggest that we should be
    Message 1 of 1 , Aug 26, 2013
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      These kind of topics come up from time to time. The wilderness belongs to all that use it. Just because we love to backpack shouldn't suggest that we should be privileged. 
      The packers provide the means for trail maintenance, resupply for us, accessibility for the disabled, search and rescue, and recreation. 
      Pack animals are valuable, and take years to train. Our gear investment doesn't come close to a pack animals value.
      IMO the few gates we pass are no big deal.

      Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

      -------- Original message --------
      From: snkworth <snkworth@...>
      To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [John Muir Trail] Re: Fences on Trail?


      I have mentioned this before on this forum, but I think it is in order to mention again. Some of these "gates" are very difficult for me to manage. I am a small person and the wire tension on some of the gates are such that it is impossible for me to close the "gate" after I have passed through. It even seems dangerous to attempt to stretch the wiring and "gate" back in place. It seems that the stakeholders (people with the critters) would have an interest in making or checking that said gates are easily operable. I must add that some of the gate were improved this year on the JMT. I recall a couple where I could easily slide wood poling horizontally, and duck down and actually go through the gate. This would be difficult for a large person or one with a big pack, however.

      Last year when i raised my objection to the gate situation, Mr. Ladd suggested I wait at the gate until another hiker came along to assist me. I am completely unwilling to do that.

      Regards to all,
      Nancy from Mt. Shasta

      --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, John Ladd <johnladd@...> wrote:
      > The "drift fences" are designed to keep packstock (e.g., mules, llamas)
      > from wandering away. It allows the packers to let the packstock graze with
      > less risk of losing track of them.
      > "Drift fences have been provided in many areas to protect resources and
      > help hold stock. When turning your stock loose to graze, examine the
      > terrain to predict where they'll go. Use bells on lead animals only.
      > Hobbles may be used, but will become less effective with time. Picketing
      > and portable electric fences are permitted as long as they are moved
      > frequently enough to prevent trampling and overgrazing. If you use pickets
      > or portable electric fences, try restraining only enough animals to keep
      > the rest from straying. To minimize the risk of injury, introduce your
      > stock to hobbles, picketing, and electric fences at home, not in the
      > wilderness."
      > from page 9 of
      > http://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/upload/2013-Stock-Users-Guide-FINAL-WEB.pdf
      > See also
      > http://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/stockreg.htm
      > warning: pages load slowly
      > John Curran Ladd
      > 1616 Castro Street
      > San Francisco, CA 94114-3707
      > 415-648-9279
      > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM, jj442434 <jj442434@...> wrote:
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > > Just got back from the JMT. What's with the fences across the trail in
      > > Kings Canyon NP?
      > >
      > >
      > >

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