Re: Trail routing in Yosemite for purists
- Here is the text from my Starr; "...we meet and cross the Tioga Road where the old road coming across the meadow from the river meets it. Now only a trail, we follow it across the meadow and cross the Tuolumne River on the old Bridge to the north bank... Parson's Lodge"I'm now wondering if the very oldest, original alignment may have actually traversed south of the river where 120 is now. It appears the original Tioga Road actually crossed at Parsons!! That alignment may have been destroyed when they realigned the road, thereby "switching" alignments! This is pretty exciting (for me anyway). I sure would like to see a copy of your map!ThanksJohnWalk the Sky: Following the John Muir Trail--- In email@example.com, "John" wrote:
> Hi Chris
> This is very interesting. I couldn't find your attached pdf. I have mine
> in front of me now (10th edition 1967) and the map clearly shows the JMT
> (red line) crossing the Tuolumne River to Soda Springs before heading
> east and crossing back over the Tuolumne east of Elizabeth Creek. The
> words "Soda Spring" are placed well north of the actual location and if
> one looks closely (in my case with reading glasses!) you can see the
> dotted line with an arrow indicating the actual location of the spring
> right next to the trail. If yours indeed shows it staying south of the
> Tuolumne I really need to see it!!!!
> The trail south of 120 didn't exist in Starr's time and doesn't show on
> any maps until the 7.5' edition released in the early '80's (it's not on
> the earlier 15' map). From my research, the south side trail wasn't
> built until the '70's and the NPS (though lacking in signage), still
> considers the original alignment the JMT. There was also a short lived
> effort to re-establish the trail from LeConte Memorial to HI.
> There is no "official" oversight of the JMT, so it's alignment can
> change at the whim of managing agencies; hence the old enameled Muir
> Trail sign that stands lost in the forest south of Red Cones. But in the
> TM case, the trail was moved by errors in cartography rather than the
> Park Service.
> But I'm with you, walk your own walk. As I've said before, the south
> side trail allows one to walk 220 miles without ever even seeing a road,
> and that is pretty cool.
> JDWalk the Sky: Following the John Muir Trailsee book here
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "knaushouse" wrote:
> > The posts regarding the true or pure route to the JMT through the
> Tuolumne Meadows area got my curiosity going; what was the history on
> this? So, this weekend as a break from sorting snickers bars,
> Mountain House and oatmeal packets into resupply boxes I pulled
> out my vintage "Guide to the John Muir Trail and the High Sierra Region"
> by Walter A Starr, Jr. (3rd Edition, 1946, published by the Sierra Club)
> to see what the word was back then. A few points of note:
> > Page 16 "The starting point in Yosemite is the Le Conte
> Memorial Lodge of the Sierra Club." (This was noted on a previous group
> > Page 18 (Route Description) " continue to the Tuolumne
> Meadows (8555' 3.0). We proceed eastward along the southern side
> of the valley to Tuolumne Meadows Ranger Station (8770' 2.5)"
> > Also noteworthy are the descriptions of several alternate routes and a
> note in the preface that " roads and trails change."
> > I have scanned and attached as a pdf file select text from the book
> and sections of its accompanying map for reference. Note on the map the
> how the red line of the trail stays south of what is now Hwy 120, south
> of Soda Springs. Of course, trails change. Also, what constitutes
> 'official' over what timeframe?
> > Personally, I'm in the "hike your own hike" camp on this. Upon
> arrival I plan to take the southern route, grab a campsite at the
> backpackers' camp, grab a burger, and head to the Post Office for my
> resupply box. After dinner and a hops-infused malt beverage, I expect
> to stroll the northern loop in the evening and hopefully catch a
> spectacular sunset with the meadows in the foreground and colorful
> clouds in the background. Of course, others' approaches will differ.
> > Best regards, Chris
> > ---+---+---+---
> > --- In email@example.com, "Dave" groundhogsteve@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip about LeConte to HI. I can do that as my last
> warm up walk the evening before I start.
> > >
> > > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "John" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > > The official JMT crosses 120 and goes by Parsons Lodge and Soda