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Re: [John Muir Trail] Early June Start

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  • Ima Person
    Joshua,  I hiked the trail last summer, started June 24, ended July 7.  As far as hiking conditions are concerned it really depends on what you are used to
    Message 1 of 6 , Jan 3, 2009
      Joshua,  I hiked the trail last summer, started June 24, ended July 7.  As far as hiking conditions are concerned it really depends on what you are used to and experienced with.  There was snow on the passes but I found conditions very agreeable, no high water, pass conditions were easily doable, trail in good shape.   For prehike prep, I monitored the progress reports of the PCT hikers and corresponded with several.  They all were fantastic about providing current trail conditions.  Some went through, between Whitney and Tuolumne, early to mid June so were able to provide some very timely conditions.  Check on Postholer.com or any of the other PCT sites for info.  If you are not locked in to the North-to-South route, perhaps consider meeting up with some PCT hikers and travel along with them some of the time going north.  But in the final analysis, it really depends on how the spring goes for weather.



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      From: Joshua Barrett <einsteinly@...>
      To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 9:06:42 AM
      Subject: [John Muir Trail] Early June Start


      Planning three weeks going north-south. Work conflicts may make the only possible start in
      first week (possibly second) week in June. Would love any and all feedback on best/worst
      case scenarios for early travel. I'm in San Diego and our winter so far is as wet as I can
      remember (a good thing, we need it), but I assume that will leave the Sierra with a significant
      snowpack that will not be gone by the time I begin. Thoughts?... .






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    • hmdsierra
      Here is some historical info on snow depth for May at Tyndall Ck. You can compare the various years to what you will find this year. It doesn t have 1966 but
      Message 2 of 6 , Jan 3, 2009
        Here is some historical info on snow depth for May at Tyndall Ck. You
        can compare the various years to what you will find this year. It
        doesn't have 1966 but I went to Mt. Whitney in June '66. the
        following year no way as you can see. The Winter of '68-'69 was a
        record year. My wife and I started JMT from YV in Sept.'69 but
        stopped at Red's Mdw. However, there was only a little snow then.
        July'80 was th yer we went to Mt. Whitney and had lots of snow. '82 is
        the year we did JMT in August and still had some snow on the passes
        and higher areas.

        255," TYNDALL CREEK (KERN R) snow course data in inches
        Date, Meas.Date, Depth,Water,Adjusted
        5/1967,30-APR-1967, 91.7, 35.1, 35.1
        5/1969,05-MAY-1969, 91.3, 45.9, 45.6
        5/1972,02-MAY-1972, 0.0, 0.0, --
        5/1973,27-APR-1973, 65.2, 26.2, 26.2
        5/1974,24-APR-1974, 57.7, 22.1, 22.1
        5/1975,22-APR-1975, 47.0, 15.2, --
        5/1976,25-APR-1976, 4.2, 1.2, --
        5/1977,27-APR-1977, 0.0, 0.0, --
        5/1978,02-MAY-1978, 95.0, 43.5, 43.3
        5/1979,28-APR-1979, 35.6, 14.4, 14.4
        5/1980,30-APR-1980, 66.8, 32.8, 32.8
        5/1981,30-APR-1981, 24.8, 10.8, 10.8
        5/1982,26-APR-1982, 76.2, 30.9, 30.9
        5/1983,27-APR-1983, 99.3, 40.2, 41.4
        5/1984,28-APR-1984, 34.8, 14.4, 14.4
        5/1985,25-APR-1985, 31.0, 11.8, 11.8
        5/1986,01-MAY-1986, 72.1, 35.2, 35.2
        5/1987,30-APR-1987, 12.8, 4.7, 4.7
        5/1988,30-APR-1988, 13.3, 5.6, 5.6
        5/1989,01-MAY-1989, 0.5, 0.2, 0.2
        5/1990,01-MAY-1990, 6.1, 1.4, 1.4
        5/1991,30-APR-1991, 33.4, 14.5, 14.5
        5/1992,30-APR-1992, 8.5, 3.3, 3.3
        5/1993,29-APR-1993, 54.9, 27.8, 27.8
        5/1994,29-APR-1994, 20.8, 7.6, 7.6
        5/1995,30-APR-1995, 69.9, 33.1, 33.1
        5/1996,30-APR-1996, 45.3, 21.5, 21.5
        5/1997,30-APR-1997, 38.0, 18.7, 18.7
        5/1998,28-APR-1998, 75.5, 33.8, 33.8
        5/1999,26-APR-1999, 22.3, 9.7, 9.8
        5/2000,30-APR-2000, 30.1, 15.7, 15.7
        5/2001,27-APR-2001, 27.7, 12.8, 12.8
        5/2002,29-APR-2002, 16.7, 6.9, 7.0
        5/2004,30-APR-2004, 5.6, 2.3, 2.3
        5/2005,02-MAY-2005, 58.1, 26.5, 26.4
        5/2006,30-APR-2006, 63.3, 29.9, 29.9
        5/2007,30-APR-2007, 0.0, 0.0, --
        5/2008,30-APR-2008, 20.9, 10.5, 10.5

        --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, hmdsierra <no_reply@...> wrote:
        >
        > I can compare two Fourth of July trips. The first in 1976, I think.
        > It was typical summer with only patchs of snow to be seen mainly on
        > the north sides of the mountains. In 1980 the majority of the
        > switchbacks were under snow and we had to take a trail mdae through
        > the snow. West side trail clear except for a few patchs. Ice still
        > on lakes and snow on the ridge between Guitar and Hitchcock Lakes.
        > The trail was mostly snow free down to Lower Crabtree Mdw. Going up
        > Mt. Whitney there was a big snowbank and everybody just went straight
        > up it. The hut was half filled with snow/ice. The view from the top
        > was all white to the horizon. In 1982 we did the trail starting from
        > YV on Aug 1. There was snow on almost every pass but the path was
        > well beaten. On the 21st, or so, the north side of Forester Pass was
        > a snowfield but the south side was clear. Trail Crest was clear.
        > Muir Pass north side was a big snowfield but easy to navigate. South
        > side had snow to below Helen Lake. My first trip to Mt. Whitney was
        > early June but the next year there was four feet of snow at Whitney
        > Portal at the same time of year.
        >
        > --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "Joshua Barrett"
        > <einsteinly@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Planning three weeks going north-south. Work conflicts may make the
        > only possible start in
        > > first week (possibly second) week in June. Would love any and all
        > feedback on best/worst
        > > case scenarios for early travel. I'm in San Diego and our winter so
        > far is as wet as I can
        > > remember (a good thing, we need it), but I assume that will leave
        > the Sierra with a significant
        > > snowpack that will not be gone by the time I begin. Thoughts?....
        > >
        >
      • Patt
        Joshua;      In reference to your possible early start date: Take a look at the muir trail ranch resupply page. At this time they are indicating that it
        Message 3 of 6 , Jan 3, 2009
          Joshua;
           
             In reference to your possible early start date: Take a look at the muir trail ranch resupply page. At this time they are indicating that it may be possible to pick up a resupply as early as Wed. June 17th.This is dependent on the opening of the Kaiser Pass Rd. VVR is likely to be available earlier as their accessibility is somewhat different from MTR......
              Hope this helps....Good Hiking
          .... 




                                                         Patt

          --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Joshua Barrett <einsteinly@...> wrote:

          From: Joshua Barrett <einsteinly@...>
          Subject: [John Muir Trail] Early June Start
          To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 9:06 AM

          Planning three weeks going north-south. Work conflicts may make the only
          possible start in
          first week (possibly second) week in June. Would love any and all feedback on
          best/worst
          case scenarios for early travel. I'm in San Diego and our winter so far is
          as wet as I can
          remember (a good thing, we need it), but I assume that will leave the Sierra
          with a significant
          snowpack that will not be gone by the time I begin. Thoughts?....


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