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Re: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet

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  • John Ladd
    A podiatrist I saw about an episode of plantar fasciitis recommended that I try Superfeet Green before spending the money on custom orthotics. He really
    Message 1 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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      A podiatrist I saw about an episode of plantar fasciitis recommended that I try Superfeet Green before spending the money on custom orthotics. He really stressed the importance of using them ALL the time. Not just in my hiking boots, but also in street shoes and even my slippers. So I bought multiple pairs and put one set in each set of shoes, slippers, boots and even my kayaking footwear. Before starting to use them, I wold get Achilles tendinitis and/or plantar fasciitis sporadically (maybe 2-3 times a year) and have to cut back on my hiking to get better. Using the Superfeet both caused the then-current problem to resolve fairly quickly (though I also cut back on amount of hiking) and I haven't had a problem in the last year.  I'm a believer.

      John Curran Ladd
      1616 Castro Street
      San Francisco, CA  94114-3707
      415-648-9279


      On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Darryl <dabrahms@...> wrote:
       

      I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
      Darryl


    • Joe MacLeish
      Darryl: I replace the soles in my hiking boots and my running shoes with them and have for years. Not my biking or walking shoes though. Joe From:
      Message 2 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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        Darryl:

        I replace the soles in my hiking boots and my running shoes with them and have for years.  Not my biking or walking shoes though.

        Joe

         

        From: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
        Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:27 PM
        To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet

         

         

        I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
        Darryl

      • David Carbiener
        Darryl, I use Superfeet Green in my hiking boots. Knock on wood my feet have not had any issues. Could be the Superfeet, could be the socks, could be the
        Message 3 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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          Darryl,
          I use Superfeet Green in my hiking boots.  Knock on wood my feet have not had any issues.  Could be the Superfeet, could be the socks, could be the boots.  In either case I’m sticking with what works.
          David
           
           
          From: Darryl
          Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:27 PM
          Subject: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet
           
           

          I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
          Darryl

        • Bill Heiser
          I ve been using Superfeet Orange since last summer, including my 30-day thru-hike. Like David, I can t make an apples to apples comparison since I m also
          Message 4 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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            I've been using Superfeet Orange since last summer, including my 30-day thru-hike.  Like David, I can't make an apples to apples comparison since I'm also using a different sock combination than before, and got new shoes at the same time.  But, too, am sticking with what works :).

            -Bill


            David Carbiener wrote:
             

            Darryl,
            I use Superfeet Green in my hiking boots.  Knock on wood my feet have not had any issues.  Could be the Superfeet, could be the socks, could be the boots.  In either case I’m sticking with what works.
            David
             
             
            From: Darryl
            Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:27 PM
            Subject: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet
             
             

            I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
            Darryl

          • Gina Cicotello
            Echoing the positive comments. Having been to a podiatrist and many footwear experts over the years, for multiple issues, pretty much all of them wind up
            Message 5 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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              Echoing the positive comments.  Having been to a podiatrist and many footwear experts over the years, for multiple issues, pretty much all of them wind up recommending Superfeet.  I use them in hiking boots, trail runners, and both cross-country and downhill ski boots.  Green is my usual choice, but I've got the pink ones for more cushioning in my trail running shoes.

              Gina


              On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Bill Heiser <bill@...> wrote:
               

              I've been using Superfeet Orange since last summer, including my 30-day thru-hike.  Like David, I can't make an apples to apples comparison since I'm also using a different sock combination than before, and got new shoes at the same time.  But, too, am sticking with what works :).

              -Bill


              David Carbiener wrote:

               

              Darryl,
              I use Superfeet Green in my hiking boots.  Knock on wood my feet have not had any issues.  Could be the Superfeet, could be the socks, could be the boots.  In either case I’m sticking with what works.
              David
               
               
              From: Darryl
              Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:27 PM
              Subject: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet
               
               

              I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
              Darryl


            • Frank Dumville
              I used to use them for hiking but found I needed a higher arch and softer forefoot than they provided. I still use them for biking and they work well for me in
              Message 6 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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                I used to use them for hiking but found I needed a higher arch and softer forefoot than they provided.
                I still use them for biking and they work well for me in that application because of the different dynamics.
                 
                They are probably worth a try. Your feet may need to get used to them.
                 
                Snap
                 

                From: Darryl <dabrahms@...>
                 
              • Kim Fishburn
                Initially I got blisters on my heel when using the Superfeet. Now that I ve found out that my heel is bigger than normal I get the next size up and cut the
                Message 7 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                  Initially I got blisters on my heel when using the Superfeet. Now that I've found out that my heel is bigger than normal I get the next size up and cut the front down to fit into the shoe. Haven't had any problems since.


                  On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Joe MacLeish <jmacleish@...> wrote:
                   

                  Darryl:

                  I replace the soles in my hiking boots and my running shoes with them and have for years.  Not my biking or walking shoes though.

                  Joe

                   

                  From: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
                  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:27 PM
                  To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet

                   

                   

                  I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
                  Darryl


                • David Neumann
                  I ve used Superfeet green for hiking and biking and Superfeet blue for everyday wear for at least five years. They were recommended to me by a salesperson at
                  Message 8 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                    I've used Superfeet green for hiking and biking and Superfeet blue for everyday wear for at least five years. They were recommended to me by a salesperson at REI.. I also have custom orthotics which I have also used for hiking and/or everyday use but I find the Superfeet more comfortable and definitely less costly. The orthotics were made for me by my podiatrist after a bout of plantar fasciitis for around $300. The $35 Superfeet always go in my new shoes (and they go with me when I try on those new shoes as well as they do increase the volume in the shoe which alters the fit).

                    Dave
                  • John Ladd
                    ... On one pair of boots, I need to trim the front so that they don t extend under the ball of the foot. Untrimmed, my toes started to contact the foot box of
                    Message 9 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                      On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Kim Fishburn <animalfarm99@...> wrote:
                      Now that I've found out that my heel is bigger than normal I get the next size up and cut the front down to fit into the shoe

                      On one pair of boots, I need to trim the front so that they don't extend under the ball of the foot. Untrimmed, my toes started to contact the foot box of the boot. They stay in place even though they don't extend up into the toe of the boot and the Superfeet website says they work just as well without the forward part.

                      "If your footwear is too tight to accommodate the full length of your Superfeet insole, you can trim off the forefoot closer to the stabilizer cap (Fig. 9). This will have no effect on the biomechanical benefits of the insole."

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                      In short, if they don't work at first, try some variations.

                      Same page says has other fitting tips and says that you can return them to the manufacturer if they don't work after a 60 day trial. Keep your receipt.


                      John Curran Ladd
                      1616 Castro Street
                      San Francisco, CA  94114-3707
                      415-648-9279
                    • Herb
                      Darryl-- Regardless what you go with, you might also try some barefoot walking/running, and using minimalist shoes like Zems
                      Message 10 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                        Darryl--

                        Regardless what you go with, you might also try some barefoot walking/running, and using minimalist shoes like Zems (http://www.zemgear.com/collections/spring2013/) for training.

                        My plantar fascia was getting so bad I was afraid it would ultimately retire me from the trail. I had pain nearly every morning. I tried orthotics, with and without padding inserts to no advantage. Then I read several barefoot running books, the most interesting of which was "Born to Run" (available in print and audiobook).

                        I was inspired to try barefoot and minimalist walking and running. Feet need to be trained, so start slowly and build up. After 3 months I felt my feet were getting stronger. In 6 months I had tossed the orthotics. It has now been over a year. I can run barefoot 4 miles, and 10 miles with minimalist shoes. I no longer have daily foot pain. We just completed a 45+ mile hike along the Lonesome Miner Trail using my old trail runners. A hike that long a year ago would have resulted in significant daily pain--I had none.

                        Some interesting points made in "Born to Run": Running shoe companies have spent millions developing their shoe lines and yet running related injuries INCREASE each year; despite their big budgets, they can point to no research that their expensive shoes help prevent injuries; studies show that increased padding under our feet ultimately results in greater impact because our bodies naturally seek stability; shoes with heel drop cause a harder heel strike than is natural--we really should be striking the ground mid-foot; every engineer will tell you that the absolute WORST way to support an arch structure is to put something underneath it, as this weakens the design.

                        Naturally everyone's experience is different. But if you are having foot issues of any kind, I do recommend researching barefoot running to see if it can help you.

                        Herb

                        --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "Darryl" <dabrahms@...> wrote:
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                        > I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
                        > Darryl
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                      • Don Amundson
                        I used to use Supefeet, the blues, greens and orange. I first wore the blues about 20 years ago when prescribed by a podiatrist for a case of plantar
                        Message 11 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                          I used to use Supefeet, the blues, greens and orange. I first wore the blues about 20 years ago when prescribed by a podiatrist for a case of plantar fasciitisI continued using them until a few years ago when I asked myself why. They were prescribed to treat a specific condition which no longer existed. To me it was akin to leaving a cast on a broken bone long after it had healed.
                          By all means use Superfeet if you have a specific need/condition that you think they will help. 


                          To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
                          From: dabrahms@...
                          Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 23:27:23 +0000
                          Subject: [John Muir Trail] Superfeet

                           
                          I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with Superfeet. Thanks.
                          Darryl


                        • ravi_jmt2013
                          ... Born to Run is a GREAT book. I read it two years ago after shin splints ended an attempt to train for a marathon. Over the 7 years prior to reading the
                          Message 12 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                            --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "Herb" <hstroh@...> wrote:
                            > Then I read several barefoot running books, the most interesting of which was "Born to Run" (available in print and audiobook).
                            >

                            Born to Run is a GREAT book. I read it two years ago after shin splints ended an attempt to train for a marathon. Over the 7 years prior to reading the book, I would get knee and shin splint injuries pretty much without fail when running more than 25 miles/week. Although I never switched to barefoot running, I did totally change my stride and technique. At the same time I started taking glucosamine and chondroitin supplements. I was able to build up to 40-45 miles/week without injury and have completed two marathons since then. My guess is that I wouldn't be attempting the JMT this year if I still was as prone to knee injury as I used to be.
                          • cjoslyn99
                            They can be helpful but may not solve all issues. I started w/ custom orthotics through podiatrist to resolve issues from running, when I started getting pain
                            Message 13 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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                              They can be helpful but may not solve all issues.

                              I started w/ custom orthotics through podiatrist to resolve issues from
                              running, when I started getting pain where achilles attaches at heel due
                              to bad foot alignment.

                              Those worked quite well and after about 10 years started getting knee
                              problems and an ortho specialist had me switch to superfeet. Those
                              again worked for awhile but then started getting neuroma in forefoot and
                              also in sesamoid (big joint behind big toe). Had to get cortisone shots
                              to reduce the issues in both areas.

                              Went back to podiatrist who switched me back to custom orthotics (newly
                              adjusted) and advised on proper type of shoe for me to wear and haven't
                              had issues since.

                              Bottom line is superfeet can help provide support / cushioning depending
                              on which version you buy, but if you have an underlying alignment issue
                              that superfeet can't compensate for, then you need the orthotics.

                              No harm in trying teh superfeet and if you start developing problems or
                              your existing problems don't go away, go see your podiatrist. There is
                              some amount of trial and error getting the right shoes and insoles
                              locked in, so need some patience.


                              --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "Darryl" wrote:
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                              > I would appreciate hearingt your opinion and experience with
                              Superfeet. Thanks.
                              > Darryl
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