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Re: [John Muir Trail] Re: it's permit time!!

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  • Alex Cheng
    The 4 mile trail to GP is indeed very steep and difficult - just like the Snow Creek trail.  To me, the key difference between the two trails is the sun
    Message 1 of 11 , Mar 15, 2013
      The 4 mile trail to GP is indeed very steep and difficult - just like the Snow Creek trail.  To me, the key difference between the two trails is the sun exposure on the Snow Creek trail.  From mid-morning, you're pretty much receiving full sun exposure on the Snow Creek trail, and it's really HOT until you reach the crest (footbridge) where there are some very nice campsites that have stunning views of the sun setting on Half Dome.  There are also some nice swimming holes not far from the campsites.

      Why this might be useful information for JMTers is because the Snow Creek trail is another way to get from Yosemite Valley (Snow Creek TH is near HI) to Tuolumne Meadows...

      --- On Fri, 3/15/13, brucelem12 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      From: brucelem12 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [John Muir Trail] Re: it's permit time!!
      To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, March 15, 2013, 1:12 PM


      Sorry...I wan't very clear. My Pohono Trail hike starting at Glacier Point and heading SE is not a JMT start/not part of my JMT hike. I was just noting it as regarding the same hike/bus alternatives to get to the Glacier point start.

      However...I have considered the possibility of starting from the other end (SE end) of the Pohono Trail (Wawona Tunnel) for a JMT start, then camping first night at Bridalveil Creek, before crossing Glacier Point and taking the Panorama Trail to Nevada Falls the next day. I never checked if this would be legal.

      4 Mile Trail is indeed probably a workout w/ a full pack...I haven't hiked it before, but I believe it's supposed to be the next steepest after Snow Creek out of the valley. I'm doing it for just the reason you noted Ravi...the bus would get me there later, cost $25, be a tedious 4 hours, and I want to see the views from that trail anyway.

      Do you still want me to attach a map Roleigh...or does that clear it up? :)


      --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, Roleigh Martin <roleigh@...> wrote:
      > Bruce, can you explain a little more about the Pohono Trail TH Start? We
      > don't have that documented in our TH Options. How did your permit read
      > (for TH start name, and first day camp site).

      --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "ravi_jmt2013" <ravi@...> wrote:
      > I didn't realize that this could be an option. I have a GP permit which I will try to change to a Sunrise pass-through when I arrive at Yosemite. I'm not thrilled about the late start that I would get if I take the first bus up to Glacier Point (leaving at 8:30), although I might get to GP around the same time if walking up the four mile trail which seems like it could be quite a workout with a full pack.

      > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:44 AM, brucelem12
      > > The person I spoke to to get a Pohono Trail permit starting from Glacier
      > > Point said I was allowed to day hike up the 4 Mile Trail w/ my overnight
      > > pack to get there. I suspect, but don't know for a fact that the answer
      > > would be different for the Mist Trail or JMT.
      > > Bruce

      > > --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "tamirph" <tamirph@> wrote:
      > > I am debating about whether to put HI-Illilouette as my 3rd choice or GP to
      > > LYV (can you hike to there instead of taking the bus? we are doing a 3 week
      > > hike so what's more miles?)

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