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RE: [John Muir Trail] Mono Meadows Option Restriction?

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  • Jason Fitzpatrick
    Hope this helps. The red X marks the spot where we camped. To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com From: roleigh@pobox.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:44:04 -0500
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 11, 2013
    Hope this helps. The red "X" marks the spot where we camped. 

    To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
    From: roleigh@...
    Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:44:04 -0500
    Subject: Re: [John Muir Trail] Mono Meadows Option Restriction?

    Jason, could you please use MS Paint or something and show on a photograph of a map where you think you camped that night?  You could look at the map photos in our file folder on TH Permits (one of them being Illouette).  Doctor up that photograph and please post it as an attachment to this thread?  Thanks!  I'll update the document on this option with your contribution then.  Thanks!

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    On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Jason <xparrot9@...> wrote:
    We started out from there in 2011, and they told us we had to camp along Illouette creek. It was about 3.5 miles from the trailhead. It was great for us. The hike to the creek is nice, but nothing compared to the rest of the trail. That said the hike from the creek to Nevada Falls on the Panorama trail is really amazing. It's a good option if you can't get out of HI or Glacier Point for sure.

    --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, Roleigh Martin wrote:
    > In 2012, we used the Mono Meadow option and we camped about 1.5 mile short
    > of Panorama Cliff. The restriction is yes, no LYV nor JMT camping the
    > first night. The next night, we made it to Sunrise Creek, and the 3rd day
    > we made it to Tuolumne Meadows. We ended up making to Whitney Portal. So
    > it is still a valid JMT option.
    > -------------------------------------------------
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    > links)
    > _
    > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:30 PM, ravi_jmt2013 wrote:
    > > **

    > >
    > >
    > > After reading Roleigh's documentation of the Mono Meadow Option some time
    > > ago, I decided that this would be an easy to get "fallback" reservation if
    > > the quotas are full for all of the more desirable options (HI>>Pass
    > > Through, HI>>LYV, GP>>LYV) and if the HI>>Illilouette and GP>>Illilouette
    > > options also don't work out. However, when I looked at the current version
    > > of the Yosemite Trailheads map (
    > > http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/upload/trailheadmap.pdf), I noticed
    > > that the Mono Meadow trailhead specifies: (No LYV or JMT camping).
    > >
    > > Clearly, it would not be permitted to camp at LYV or along the JMT on the
    > > first night but the statement on the map has me concerned because it seems
    > > to be a broader prohibition that is not listed for any of the other
    > > trailheads on the map (including the Illilouette options).
    > >
    > > I can't be certain but I do not remember seeing that prohibition for Mono
    > > Meadows the last time I looked at the map several months ago. So I wonder
    > > if the NPS has cracked down on this "loophole" entry?
    > >
    > > The NPS website still has the following statement regarding no "special"
    > > JMT permit being required:
    > >
    > > "John Muir Trail
    > > If you plan to hike the John Muir Trail as a continuous hike, you only
    > > need one wilderness permit for the entire trip (you do not need a "Whitney
    > > stamp"). Most people begin the hike at Happy Isles (its traditional start
    > > in Yosemite Valley), however many people begin at Lyell Canyon (Tuolumne
    > > Meadows) because permits for this trailhead are slightly easier to obtain.
    > > There is no special JMT permit."
    > >
    > >
    > >

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