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Re: [John Muir Trail] Toilet Paper and beyond

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  • Linda Reitz
    Amanda, very well said. Thank you for the comment. And GeeseLouise the seplling WOW Linda ________________________________ From: Amanda L Silvestri
    Message 1 of 4 , Apr 2, 2011
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      Amanda, very well said. Thank you for the comment. And GeeseLouise the seplling WOW

      From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive@...>
      To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 9:02:15 AM
      Subject: [John Muir Trail] Toilet Paper and beyond


      My friends
      I have noticed, from time to time, that people will sometimes become confused between criticism of a them and criticism of an opinion.  Here we have a form that allows us to share our opinions, methods, equipment choices, etc., regardless of our experience level.  Sometimes one or more of us may feel very strongly about a topic or field practice while another may be more laissezfaire about it.  This is an opportunity for discussion and learning, not attacking or becoming defensive. 
      When any of us make a statement as to how we do something, there will be others who do it differently.  It is to our advantage to consider the other method, even if we ultimately reject it.  Failure to consider alternatives blocks the possibility for growth and learning.  Sometimes we may take a part of the other method without adopting it in its entirety.  The important thing is to consider it.  Why is it being done this way and what are the advantages/disadvantages to the method?
      When someone responds to a posting, it is incumbent to remember that we are in a discussion, not a debate.  Winning and loosing is not the point here.  No one should be made to feel attacked and we all should strive to remember that disagreement is not a  attack upon us personally.  We are among or peers/friends and should make an effort to phrase our comments accordingly.  Likewise, when receiving feedback, it is helpful to remember that people are discussing an idea, method or behavior and are not, or should not, be making judgments as to another persons worth, intelligence or ancestry.  Taking disagreement personally tends to stymie discussion and alienate participants, thus hinder additional input, perhaps the very idea that everyone would adopt.
      Sometimes, the discussion will come around to regulations.  Regulations are facts and are not opinions.  We may have opinions about some regulations but that does not change them.  Regulations need to be complied with even if we disagree with them, otherwise we have anarchy.  Hopefully all who subscribe here are mature enough to follow regulations even when a ranger is not present to enforce the behavior.  This is the same as any other code of conduct.  Being able to do a thing is not the same as being justified in doing it.
      Behavior in the field and behavior on this site, it all comes down to respect, respect for others and respect for the wilderness.  I now return you to your regularly scheduled soap box.

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