Re: [John Muir Trail] hanging the food
- I recently looked at the pictures of your trip in the Marble Mtns. I always enjoy pictures and or trips and trip reports but these photos really spoke to me. I suppose it shook the dust off of decades old memories of tales, pictures, and plans thought about. Thank You for the trip.
--- In email@example.com, John Ladd <johnladd@...> wrote:
> I second Herb's point on making sure bearcan will not roll into a lake or
> stream or canyon.
> Here's a few pics of my bearcan after last (non-JMT) trip in Marble Mountain
> Wilderness and adjacent areas. It was on a slope and could easily have been
> WAY downhill if I hadn't placed it against a big downed log that was lying
> just perpendicular to the fall line. Judging from the amount of scratches,
> the bear must have given it a workover. (I was not nearby, so the bear had
> lots of time to play.)
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> I was using an Ursack as a supplemental food container on this trip and hung
> it with some (limited) success in (non-bearcan-required) areas where I
> suspected bears might be about (e.g., scat on trail, heavily used
> campsite). I used counterbalance methods some nights and "PCT method" other
> nights but it was hard with either technique to get the sack high enough
> and/or far enough out on an appropriate branch. The counterbalance method
> is supposed to be better, but it puts twice the weight on the branch as the
> PCT Method and some of the available branches wouldn't take the extra
> The PCT Method is described below (together with other methods). NOT legal
> on JMT.
> I STRONGLY recommend a legal bearcan on the entire JMT. Hanging a Ursack
> might be an acceptable *supplement *for areas where (1) it is legal (when
> hung), (2) you have more food than fits the can and (3) the Ursack can hold
> non-smelly food and/or you use an odorproof bag inside the Ursack.
> I would NOT hang anything other than a Ursack. It's *really* hard to do a
> proper hang and therefore there is a good chance (unless you are a much
> better hanger than I) that a bear will get down your sack down if she
> tries. The Ursack won't protect your food much, but it will protect the
> bear from a food reward.
> John Curran Ladd
> 1616 Castro Street
> San Francisco, CA 94114-3707
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Herb <herbstroh@...> wrote:
> > Note that you should locate the can so that a good swipe will not send it
> > into a water source or down a hill into the great unknown. I look for a
> > crisscross of logs or rocks such that the can can't be rolled away.
> > Herb