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6524RE: [John Muir Trail] Question about cost and time

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  • robert shattuck
    Dec 8, 2009
      If you've got the time, don't even bother trying to get a permit ahead of time––just show up. As many times as I've done it I've never had a problem getting a permit as soon as I got off the bus, but I am also never in a hurry, so the inconvenience of waiting maybe a day, has never bothered me. 

      if you live far away and need to make all sorts of to-the-second plans, so you can leave your desk one day, hop on the trail the next, hike twenty days and then be home on the twenty-first day, then getting your permit ahead of time might be a good idea, but if you're a college student with some time to kill and life to ponder. take your time. 

      if you're going to rent a bear canister for $50 bucks, you might as well buy one for another ten or so bucks . . . but you can also just rent them from the ranger stations in yosemite for roughly five or six bucks, for the entire length of your trip––just remember to send it back if you are not going to be returning through the valley. 



      To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      From: ed_rodriguez52@...
      Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:56:15 +0000
      Subject: Re: [John Muir Trail] Question about cost and time

      Its my understand that you fill the form out on line but they ask you either to fax it or mail the form
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      From: jeff.hester <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
      Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:52:20 -0000
      To: <johnmuirtrail@ yahoogroups. com>
      Subject: Re: [John Muir Trail] Question about cost and time

      Out of curiosity (and slightly off-topic), why do you recommend faxing your permit app in versus doing it online?

      --- In johnmuirtrail@ yahoogroups. com, "Barbara Karagosian" <barbara@... > wrote:
      > Hi Jonathan - Dates look good - agree with what Bob said - mosquitoes could
      > be bad - you'll likely need a headnet, and I presprayed my clothes with
      > permethrin - some people use Deet too - others dislike it. Weather - should
      > be good, but be prepared - there was a snow storm warning around Aug 7 or 8
      > this year! (didn't happen tho). I've heard rumors of an El Nino winter
      > which means wetter than its been the last few years -this would in turn
      > translate to snow at passes and deeper/faster stream crossings in places.
      > Also concur with making allowance for time getting to and from the trail -
      > and for getting your permit, if you're not nagging it in advance. If you're
      > getting it in advance, then fax in your written request at a nano second
      > past midnight, 24 weeks ahead of your trail entry date. Food etc. You can
      > rent a bear canister from Wild Ideas.com - either the Weekender or the
      > Expedition. They are $50 flat rate rental fee if you tell them you're doing
      > the JMT. Check their site for sizes and rental form. Add to that the cost
      > of mailing it back to them when you're done. Food - well it has to fit in
      > your canister, other than what you're eating that day or for dinner that
      > night. This includes smelly toiletries etc. Figure out everything you
      > need, and premeasured it out to reduce weight and waste. Food - go for the
      > dense high calorie stuff. I've used the prepackaged dehydrated stuff but it
      > gets old very quickly (to the taste buds). Also tortillas, bean paste,
      > salami, PB. Good luck - Barbara
      > _____
      > From: johnmuirtrail@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:johnmuirtrail@ yahoogroups. com]
      > On Behalf Of Jonathan
      > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:34 PM
      > To: johnmuirtrail@ yahoogroups. com
      > Subject: [John Muir Trail] Question about cost and time
      > Hey all, so I'm trying to get an average idea of how much it'll cost me to
      > do the entire trip. I have all my own gear (or access to that which I don't
      > own), but am on a tight (college student) budget. Does anyone have any
      > suggestions for ways that I can save a few bucks here and there, and a rough
      > estimate as to how much it'll end up costing? I know it's important to get
      > good, healthy meals while on the trail, but I'm not sure I can afford all
      > the prepackaged, dehydrated meals. A few per leg of the trail is fine, but
      > other than that...
      > One last question: Due to me going to college and needing time to repack
      > before heading out again, I was planning on going from Happy Isles to
      > Whitney July 13-August 6 or 8. Should I anticipate more temperamental
      > weather during that time, or are my dates fairly solid?
      > Thanks to all ahead of time for your helpful guidance!

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