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  • targetdoggmechanic
    Jun 14, 2013
      Olive was great actually. I ate there and told her I couldn't believe how fast my tab was running up with the beers and ferry ride and resupply and such...she recommended that I work bussing tables and chopping wood the next day...breakfast and lunch done..then chopped some wood. Tab went down to zero since they were short handed that year...2009. We ended up pounding beers with the other employees that night around the fire after power down. Needless to say I ended up staying another day cause I was feeling a little drunk still the next morning.

      --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com, "Joe MacLeish" <jmacleish@...> wrote:
      > Wow, that review is amazing and totally contrary to my experiences. I have
      > been there twice and outside of Olive had only excellent interactions.
      > Washers worked, showers worked and even the ferry was running (sort of) both
      > times and the food and pies were great and the beer and the company, both
      > backpackers and VVR people. Jim went out of his way to get me and others
      > hooked up with oddball rides. I must say I am glad to see Olive seeking
      > other career opportunities but that was a minor irritation. I certainly
      > will be back next year.
      > Joe
      > From: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com]
      > On Behalf Of cjoslyn99
      > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:05 PM
      > To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [John Muir Trail] Re: VERMILION VALLEY RESORT PROBLEMS
      > I think what was described was probably an isolated incident and a clash
      > with the author's personal sensibilities. I stopped there in 2011
      > (actually to exit w/ a twisted ankle and they took great care of me) and
      > 2012 (finally finishing the JMT) and would have no qualms going there
      > again. I wouldn't send a resupply there - as being unnecessary - but
      > pick up what I needed, have some fabulous food and drink, shower, do
      > laundry, camp and be on my way.
      > No way is it a rip-off. Given where VVR is situated and the level of
      > services they DO provide to backpackers (where one shouldn't expect to
      > get anything), the costs are right in line. Not sure why there was a
      > perception that somehow backpackers are unwelcome. In contrast to MTR,
      > VVR goes out of its way to make comforts available to backpackers
      > (bathrooms, shower, laundry, phone, their store and restaurants). MTR
      > is a little more challenged in terms of being able to procure
      > food/supplies etc. to non-guests, so I don't begrudge them that, but I
      > felt less welcome at MTR than VVR (they won't even let you use their
      > bathrooms). At VVR you are a guest regardless.
      > Olive is (or was...didn't know she won't be back) a character and will
      > verablly spar w/ backpackers who want to participate, but she was always
      > nice to me.
      > --- In johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:johnmuirtrail%40yahoogroups.com> , "ptoddf" wrote:
      > >
      > > I was going to resupply at VVR next month, but negative reports
      > reached my ears. Then my search for "VVR Reviews" found this scathing
      > (and current) report. Read the whole thing, including VVR's rebuttal
      > here:
      > >
      > >
      > http://tahoetowhitney.org/content/vermilion-valley-resort-backpacker-res\
      > <http://tahoetowhitney.org/content/vermilion-valley-resort-backpacker-resupp
      > ly>
      > upply
      > >
      > > With response:
      > >
      > > http://tahoetowhitney.org/content/vermilion-valley-resort-papers
      > >
      > >
      > > If one quarter of this is true, I can't trust them for resupply --
      > which would ruin my whole summer.
      > >
      > > I have my Muir Trail Ranch labels ready to print from their site. A
      > quick stop and a hop into their hot spring and I'll be hiking again.
      > >
      > > Don't need to spend a whole day and night at VVR, then wait for their
      > late morning ferry boat. MTR is more central anyway.
      > >
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