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1740Re: [John Muir Trail] Re: basic choice

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  • jmaddog1082@charter.net
    Dec 19, 2007
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      While we're on that subject, Search and Rescue Teams / Public Safety agencies should not be charging the patients/victims of any ground/water/air rescue UNLESS the patient/victim is or has comitted a violation of any law which led to their predicament. An example might be sustaining a fall that requires a rescue during a climb in a "no trespass" or "out of bounds" area.

      However, the helo "bill" you're refering to may actually be one covered by most basic health insurance plans, assuming the patient/victim is insured.

      But you're right Ken - what price do we place on our health and lives?

      Happy trails,
      J


      ---- Ken <nekeel@...> wrote:
      > I agree. Bailing out on the Northern part is much easier than the Southern part. I think the helicopter ride is more than $1,500. In fact, I heard from a river guide that someone had to be pulled out of the Green River, UT (broken legs) and they sent her parents a bill for $12,000 to $15,000. Of course, $12,000 to $15,000 is better than dead.
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      > Be Safe!
      > Ken
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      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: Kevin Aston <kevin@...>
      > To: johnmuirtrail@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:34:46 PM
      > Subject: [John Muir Trail] Re: basic choice
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      > I agree with John, but if you are a rookie hiker, and are not sure of
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      > you abilities at high altitude, I would choose the north end because
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      > there are a lot of bail out points. If you are going south, after
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      > Vermillion getting off the trail is a 12-25 mile walk, or a $1500 per
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      > Happy Planning
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      > Kevin Aston
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      > --- In johnmuirtrail@ yahoogroups. com, "John Randall"
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      > <sierra_marmot@ ...> wrote:
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      > > The JMT's resupply points are top-loaded, that is on the northern
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      > > of the trip; Tuolumne, Reds Meadow, VVR and MTR. Not
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      > > the northern 1/2 of the JMT is the most heavily used, and in my
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      > > the least enjoyable. In August every campsite between Happy Valley
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      > > Piute Trail junction is occupied by weekenders coming in from
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      > Tuolumne,
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      > > Reds Meadow, Mammoth, Lake Edison and Florence Lake. The Mono and
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      > Bear
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      > > Creek drainages have wall-to-wall fishermen. I don't recommend
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      > > section unless it's actually important to you to say you've hiked
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      > the
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      > > JMT end-to-end. That and a dollar will get you a coke.
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      > > If I had one hike to hike it would be from the North Lake trailhead
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      > > over Piute Pass and down to the PCT/JMT at the bridge, then south
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      > > through Evolution continuing to Whitney Portal or Horseshoe
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      > Meadow.
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      > > That trip is about 115 miles; nine or ten days for the average
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      > > backpacker. That's a lot of food to carry, but there's no
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      > > alternative. Less weight, fewer days.
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      > > The second hike I'd take would leave from South Lake via Bishop
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      > Pass
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      > > ending up at WP, roughly 88 miles trailhead-to- trailhead. This
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      > trip is
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      > > like eating the heart of the watermelon and offers an incomparable
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      > > journey; but, it still comes down to how much weight are you going
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      > > carry and how many hours per day are you going to hike. If you're
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      > > going to be hiking at 6:00am, resting mid-day, stopping again in
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      > > afternoon for dinner, then hiking until dusk, even at a mile-an-
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      > > you'll be finished the North Lake/WP in 8-9 days without resupply.
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      > > I suppose the last option would be to cache food at one of the
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      > Vidette
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      > > Meadow bear lockers by driving to Trails End in Kings Canyon and
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      > > up the Bubbs Creek Trail.
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      > > john randall
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      > > birmingham, AL
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