1393Re: Bear containers
- Jan 22, 2007Often the latches on the bear boxes are broken. A few years ago we
were in Little Yosemite Valley. the Ranger strongly insisted I use
the bear box. I looked at it and one of the latches was missing the
catch the other had a broken spring that allowed the slide latch to
remain open. I bumped one with the heel of my hand once and the other
twice and the lid fell open. I looked for the ranger but he was
already gone. I put my food in it but was not asured.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "microseris2004"
> Thank you, Snowbird, for the excellent set of links on the status of
> Sierra Interagency Black Bear Group (SIBBG) approved bear resistant
> food-storage containers.
> I hiked the entire JMT with a friend of mine in 2005. We both carried
> Bearikade Expeditions, which were just the right size for the Muir Ranch
> to Mt. Whitney 10-day+ leg of the trip. For a 5-day solo trip, the
> Bearikade Weekender should be plenty bigas would the similarly
> sized BearVault 450. And if you don't eat much and pack really tightly,
> you might even be able to use the smaller sized models.
> While we had two nights where bears walked by our camp, they paid no
> attention to us and did not bother us with our food securely stored in
> our crush-proof O-ringed-sealed canisters. (Interestingly, our earlier
> group-campsite in Yosemite Valley was raided somewhat successfully by a
> bear the night before we left. The bear had discovered a way of throwing
> itself at the steel food-storage boxes in such a way that it was able to
> open the locks on the steel boxes! Sheesh, I hope the park has found a
> way to keep those locks from being successfully assaulted. Could
> someone post an update on that? Fortunately, our gear wasn't damaged,
> but we were happy to leave the Valley for wilder, and perhaps safer,
> country ahead.)
> Most of the folks that we talked to on the JMT were carrying BearVaults,
> and of course the talk of the trail was the bear or bears near the Rae
> Lakes (and south) area that were breaking in to the BearVaults. It's
> good to hear that a redesigned BearVault is now in the stores and they
> have a program to replace the old ones and educate old BearVault users
> so the bears are less likely to find success.
> We all benefit when bears eat wild food and leave the hikers alone.
> --- In email@example.com, "thebeebes" <rickbb@> wrote:
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jim" jvfbender@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I am struggling with a choice among bear containers. I would love
> > to have the light weight
> > > of the URSACK but am concerned about 1) It is not fully approved
> > in the National Parks
> > > and 2) I am concerned about my food being crunched if not consumed.
> > >
> > > I am giving serious consideration to the bear vault but am
> > deliberating over which size I
> > > would select. I will do most of my trecking solo and at most would
> > do 5 days between
> > > resupplies on any trip.
> > >
> > > What do you think would be the way to go.
> > >
> > You might want to wait and see what happens with the Ursack. Right
> > now it is showing as conditionally approved on the Sierra Interagency
> > Black Bear Group website at
> > http://www.sierrawildbear.gov/foodstorage/approvedcontainers.htm, but
> > there is a fairly recent post on the Ursack website by Tom (the
> > owner) at http://www.ursack.com/ursack-update.htm saying that things
> > are up in the air with the SIBBG for 2007. Remember that conditional
> > approval is all you need. If the SIBBG clears the green (Spectra)
> > Ursack for another year with the aluminum liner, at 20 ounces it's
> > your best choice by far as far as weight goes, and its capacity
> > compares to the others.
> > I carried a Bearikade on my 2004 JMT thru-hike but use an Ursack with
> > the aluminum liner on a five-day trip in the Dusy Basin-LeConte
> > Canyon area last fall. I had no problems with bears either time. I
> > couldn't tell any difference in capacity between the two. With the
> > liner, you're not going to have a significant crunch problem if a
> > bear gets hold of it. As far as capacity goes, unless your diet is
> > on the bulky side you should be fine on a five-day trip.
> > Snowbird
> > JMT '04
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