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Re: [John_Lit] Revelation - a graphic description of divine terrorism?

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  • Timothy P. Jenney
    Bill, While your title is catchy, I personally do not find your comparison of God and Bin Laden amusing. Calamity in Revelation does not fall upon the
    Message 1 of 2 , May 6, 2005

      While your title is catchy, I personally do not find your comparison of God
      and Bin Laden amusing.

      Calamity in Revelation does not fall upon the innocent, nor is its object
      simply to create terror. It is quid pro quo justice ("destroying those who
      destroy the earth," Rev. 11:18) by the entity who created both the earth and
      its inhabitants (Gen 1:1; Ps. 24:1; Rev. 4:11). That is why it is called

      OTOH, I have grave reservations about anyone--Muslim, Christian or
      otherwise--who feels qualified to initiate such actions. In my opinion, s/he
      would have to be both a megalomaniac and a sociopath with violent
      tendencies. Unfortunately, the world has plenty of such people. Fortunately
      [for the rest of us], few of them have the resources to carry out their
      visions of destruction. Bin Laden is among those few.

      The author of Revelation never encourages its readers to engage in
      destruction, only to be prepared to endure it until God's reign is
      re-established, even if means their own death. However, I find it a
      fascinating commentary on human character when so many are drawn to the
      book's depiction of the Beast, his forces and their destruction--and so few
      to the Lamb and his gentle followers, faithful until death.

      I'm hoping your e-mail does not mean you have identified yourself as being
      among the first group.

      Timothy P. Jenney
      Dr. Timothy P. Jenney
      NT Adjunct, Asbury Theological Seminary-Orlando

      > From: "billrossfamily" <BillRoss@...>
      > Reply-To: johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:28:35 -0000
      > To: johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [John_Lit] Revelation - a graphic description of divine terrorism?
      > <Bill>
      > ISTM that the apocalypse describes the action of God (via his
      > messengers) in toppling the governments and demoralizing the peoples
      > in order to prepare the land for divine rule. This is, of course,
      > well illustrated in the agenda and tactics of Bin Laden who also
      > would like to use cataclysms and terror to impose his version of
      > divine rule.
      > Paul, I believe, makes an excellent summation of Revealtion here:
      > 1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his
      > feet.
      > In fact, the passage goes on to describe what Revelation also
      > describes - that when the nations are all demoralized, Jesus
      > surrenders the throne to God so that God (who is a man-like deity,
      > not a "spirit") may rule forever on Earth from the new Jerusalem,
      > that descends from the sky - accepting tribute from the now
      > submissive nations:
      > 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
      > 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all
      > things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which
      > did put all things under him.
      > 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son
      > also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that
      > God may be all in all.
      > Rev 21:
      > 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the
      > tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they
      > shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their
      > God.
      > Bill Ross
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