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Re: [John_Lit] XTalk Seminar with Gerd Ludemann

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  • Joe Gagne
    Jeffrey: When are we supposed to find out if we have been accepted? -- Armand J. Joe Gagne Jr. PhD. University of South Carolina Sumter jogagne@uscsumter.edu
    Message 1 of 3 , Dec 23, 2004
      Jeffrey:
      When are we supposed to find out if we have been accepted?

      --
      Armand J. "Joe" Gagne Jr. PhD.
      University of South Carolina Sumter
      jogagne@...
      joegagne@...
      http://www.joegagne.com
      http://www.fourthgospel.com



      Jeffrey B. Gibson wrote:

      >SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
      >XTalk ONLINE SEMINAR WITH GERD LÜDEMANN
      >
      >The moderators of the XTalk Discussion List
      >(http://ntgateway.com/xtalk/) are pleased to announce that Gerd Lüdemann
      >-- Professor of History and Literature of Early Christian at
      >Georg-August-University Göttingen, Germany, Director of the Institute of
      >Early Christian Studies, Theological Faculty Director of the Archive
      >"Religionsgeschichtliche Schule", Theological Faculty -- has agreed to
      >conduct a three week online Seminar with XTalk members and other
      >interested parties on the ideas and arguments set out in his most recent
      >book The Resurrection of Christ: A Historical Inquiry_ (Prometheus,
      >2004)
      >
      >The Seminar will begin on Sunday, January 2nd, 2005, and run until
      >Saturday, January 22nd, 2005.
      >
      >The Seminar's Home page is:
      >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ludemann_Seminar
      >
      >So as to be managed effectively, the Seminar will be conducted on a
      >subscription only basis.
      >
      >Questions and comments submitted to the Seminar by approved Seminar
      >members will be subject to selection by the Seminar's moderators.
      >
      >Posts sent to Professor Lüdemann will be answered by him on a daily
      >basis.
      >
      >Topics for discussion are the issues and arguments raised in Professor
      >Lüdemann's book _The Resurrection of Christ_. Therefore the major
      >prerequisite for anyone wishing to participate in the Seminar is
      >familiarity with the contents and theses of this work (for a précis of
      >the book, see below).
      >
      >To apply for membership in the Seminar, send a blank e-mail message to:
      >
      > Ludemann_Seminar-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
      >
      >PLEASE NOTE that while applications for membership in the Seminar are
      >being accepted immediately, posts to Professor Lüdemann via the Seminar
      >ARE NOT.
      >
      >Nothing should be sent in to the Seminar until the eve of its opening
      >day, Sunday, January 2nd, 2005.
      >
      >Questions or comments about the Seminar may be sent to the following
      >e-mail address:
      >
      >Ludemann_Seminar-owner@yahoogroups.com
      >
      >Yours sincerely (and on behalf of the entire XTalk administrative
      >staff),
      >
      >Jeffrey Gibson
      >
      >Co-moderator and List Owner of XTalk
      >
      >**********
      >_The Resurrection of Christ: A Historical Inquiry_ by Gerd Lüdemann
      >
      >Although the resurrection is the keystone dogma of Christian belief, and
      >Sunday churchgoers rarely if ever think to question it, scholarly
      >research shows with the utmost clarity that from a historical standpoint
      >Jesus was not raised from the dead. In fact, it is almost universally
      >recognized among scholars of New Testament textual criticism that the
      >gospel narratives describing the resurrection appearances are not
      >reliable eyewitness accounts, but expressions of faith written by the
      >first Christian believers long after the death of Jesus.
      >
      >In this thorough exegesis of the primary texts dealing with the
      >resurrection of Jesus, New Testament expert Gerd Lüdemann (University of
      >Göttingen) presents compelling evidence that shows the resurrection was
      >not a historical event and further argues that this development leaves
      >little, if any, basis for Christian faith as presently defined.
      >
      >Beginning with Paul's testimony in I Cor. 15: 3-8, in which the apostle
      >declares that Jesus "has been raised on the third day in accordance with
      >the scriptures," Lüdemann systematically evaluates every reference to
      >Jesus' resurrection in the New Testament, as well as apocryphal
      >literature. He examines the purpose of the text writers, the ways in
      >which they reworked tradition, and the historical value of each account.
      >Through this approach, he offers a reconstruction of the probable course
      >of events as well as the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death on the
      >cross, the burial of his body, his reported resurrection on the third
      >day, and subsequent appearances to various disciples.
      >
      >Since the historical evidence leads to the firm conclusion that Jesus'
      >body was not raised from the dead, Lüdemann argues that the origin of
      >the Easter faith must be sought in the visionary experiences of
      >Christianity's two leading apostles. From a modem perspective this leads
      >to the inescapable conclusion that both primary witnesses to Jesus'
      >resurrection, Peter and Paul, were victims of self-deception.
      >
      >In conclusion, he asks whether in light of the non-historicity of Jesus'
      >resurrection, thinking people today can legitimately and in good
      >conscience still call themselves Christians.
      >
      >--
      >
      >Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.)
      >
      >1500 W. Pratt Blvd. #1
      >Chicago, IL 60626
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    • Jeffrey B. Gibson
      ... You should have been accepted right after you applied. Did you not receive a welcome message? Yours, Jeffrey -- Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.) 1500
      Message 2 of 3 , Dec 23, 2004
        Joe Gagne wrote:

        > Jeffrey:
        > When are we supposed to find out if we have been accepted?

        You should have been accepted right after you applied. Did you not receive a
        "welcome" message?

        Yours,

        Jeffrey
        --

        Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.)

        1500 W. Pratt Blvd. #1
        Chicago, IL 60626

        jgibson000@...
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