RE: [John_Lit] Re: Khristos Anesti> Helios Anesti
- I'm not the moderator, but ENOUGH!
Let's cut the snarling, folks. A little less heat might produce more light.
Perry L. Stepp, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biblical Studies
Kentucky Christian College
"The past is never dead. It's not even past."
> From: "Mike Grondin" <mwgrondin@...>Amen! [Er, ah, I mean "right on!"] 8-)
> Even if so, however,
> one should still adhere to the list rule against personal attacks.
Timothy P. Jenney
Ph.D. Umich, 1993
Winter Haven, Fl
- Timothy P. Jenney wrote:
>Mike, I am truly sorry that you have allowed yourchildhood experience as a Catholic to so embitter you.
Nevertheless, it does not give you the right to vent
your rage publicly on various list members, even when
they wander across the line.<
"Wander" suggests an inadvertent, careless crossing of
the line. Do you think this is what happened?
As for "rage," I didn't see Mike expressing rage. I've
never seen that in Mike. Strong annoyance and an
articulate expression of disagreement, yes. But rage?
>The essence of academic research is objectivity, aswe have already agreed. Your virulent anti-Christian
bias is no more scholarly nor academic than that of
any rabid fundamentalist Christian--and it is just as
Mike is anti-religious (it seems to me) but also a
highly intelligent critic who does add something to
this list, so I don't see that he's unproductive.
>I sought to nudge you back toward an academicdiscussion with a bit of humor. Instead, I seem to
have escalated the conflict into name-calling (e.g.
"virtual childhood"?!?). Perhaps I caught you on a bad
day. Or perhaps your sensitivity in this area makes
all your days bad. In the latter case, counseling
might help. Whatever the case, can we now move on?<
I think that the best way to move on is to confirm
that this is an academic list and agree that pious
posts should not appear here. I've had this view since
joining several years ago, but perhaps I hold the
wrong understanding of this listserve.
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When I first responded to the "khristos anesti" cue, I did not even realize
the post appeared on the John Lit list, thinking instead that it appeared on
any number of lists I read. I simply responded with the traditional Greek
Orthodox rejoinder, "indeed he is risen," and I thought that would have been the end
of it, regardless of the forum in which the thread appeared.
What has followed is the typical disclaimer about scholarly and academic
lists, which appeals to various types of objectivity. I suggest we all be
suspicious of "objectivity," and realize just how 'interested' all commentary really
is. That approach would indeed be scholarly.
An Easter greeting seems to be a most forgivable sin on a forum such as this
one, regardless of its self-understanding as essentially non-religious.
Joseph Calandrino, FAAFP
Assistant Professor of Medicine
University Hospital School of Medicine
SUNY Stony Brook
Stony Brook, NY
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [John_Lit] Khristos Anesti
> When I first responded to the "khristos anesti" cue, I did not even
> the post appeared on the John Lit list, thinking instead that it appeared
> any number of lists I read. I simply responded with the traditional Greek
> Orthodox rejoinder, "indeed he is risen," and I thought that would have
been the end
> of it, regardless of the forum in which the thread appeared.
> What has followed is the typical disclaimer about scholarly and academic
> lists, which appeals to various types of objectivity. I suggest we all be
> suspicious of "objectivity," and realize just how 'interested' all
> is. That approach would indeed be scholarly.
> An Easter greeting seems to be a most forgivable sin on a forum such as
> one, regardless of its self-understanding as essentially non-religious.
Rather than continuing to flagellate a deceased equine, please drop this
issue and return to the discussions on the literary aspects of Johannine
literature. The rules and protocols can be accessed at:
Jack Kilmon, moderator
San Marcos, Texas