RE: [John_Lit] Chiastic structures in John
- Actually, the idea is one that I'm quite interested in. I know that
several chiasms have been proposed before, so it's certainly not beyond
the pale. But such a large topic requires a bit of ambition (and time)
from the respondent, which I just haven't had. YET.
Perry L. Stepp, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Biblical Studies
Kentucky Christian College
- Dear list
In Jesus in the Johannine Tradition ed Thatcher and Fortna, in an essay on
Little Flags, Sara Winter distinguishes three stages in the construction of
FG: the signs gospel, a redaction of glosses in the perfect tense, and a
final redaction. This seems to require up to three writers in succession.
While reading this idea, I wondered about the self-referential and Father
and Spirit unity references as well as the use of tenses to denote
completion or unity or some unusual idea of time. Where does the idea for
such a holistic and Trinitarian construction come from in literature of the
time - or is it unique to FG? Are there any shadows of it in Tanakh?
Example 17:26: SW: and I made known to them your name so that it might be
among them as I am among them.
FE: And I made known to them your name and will make it known so that the
love with which you have loved me may be in them and I in them.
Does this final part of the prayer hearken back to the My Father and I - we
will come and make our home in you - the dwellings section of the FD? - it
seems to correspond.
Is the movement from name in the Signs Gospel to the Trinitarian forms a
sufficient origin for what seems a unique theology and Christology?
(Some (not all) of this editing and the perfect tense glosses seem as
plausible and as reasonable historically as the distinction between Jesus
words and the words of the FE in chapter 3. The use of tenses as a means of
timewise decomposition seems to negate the possibility of time-centred
paradox in the original text. e.g. 17:26 'and will make it known' which Sara
suggests is a contradiction with the prior parts of the prayer.)
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Catch the foxes for us,
the little foxes that make havoc of the vineyards,
for our vineyards are in flower. (Song 2.15)