Re: John 19:30
- I agree that 19:30 (literally, "giving up/over the Spirit") is about
Jesus giving the Spirit after his death. But here, as elsewhere in
Jn., I think it's more a proleptic anticipation of what Jesus will do
(later after his resurrection when he breathes on the disciples and
says receive the Spirit, though even this "foreshadows" the later
Pentecost event of Acts).
This future giving of the Spirit is clearly announced in Jn. 7:37-39
(the living water/Spirit will flow out of "his" belly after Jesus is
glorified). I think this is also fulfilled in a proleptic way in Jn.
19:34, shortly after the verse being discussed (19:30). After the
soldier pierces Jesus' side, blood and water come out. The witness
of this emphasizes the truth of this account to accent its
importance. Thus the water fulfils the living water/Spirit flowing
out after his death/glorification.
So 19:30 fits into this motif also. Various other passages
throughout Jn. could also be cited as similar metaphors for this
motif. And much of Jn. 14-16 emphasizes the importance of Jesus
sending/giving the Paraclete/Spirit after he departs.
--- In email@example.com, Bob MacDonald
> RSV has he gave up his spiritover is
> NET has a literal note : he bowed his head and gave over the spirit
> Mary Coloe in her God Dwells with Us points out that the Greek gave
> the same as the word for betrayed in 18:2, and 18:5, also the wordis used
> in 18:35, 36, 19:11, 16 (p189) - i.e. it is a theme in the passionstory.
> She suggests that John is referring to a 'handing over' of the
>contradiction in the
> Any one else have a thought on what this might mean?
> I think I am too influenced by the Bach St John Passion to think of
> transference of the Spirit here - not to the disciples anyway.
> though perhaps the separation of 'death' is a kind of a
> relationships of the Son and the Spirit - i.e. a kind of betrayal.
> weird thoughts
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