- Dear Colleagues,
I hope this letter finds you well! As you may be aware, the program for
this year's SBL meeting in Toronto is now available on-line. As you make
your plans and preparations for the meeting, may I draw your attention to
the inaugural session of the "John, Jesus, and History Consultation" on
Saturday afternoon from 4pm--6:30pm. Many of you have expressed interest in
this group in the past, and we very much hope that you will be able to
attend. We expect a large gathering of scholars who are interested in the
Johannine Literature, Historical Jesus studies, and general methodological
issues surrounding the composition-history of ancient gospels.
Because this is our inaugural meeting, our session will focus on an overview
of issues pertaining to scholarship on the composition-history of FG. Two
papers, one by Bob Kysar and another by Paula Fredricksen, will be
summarized and discussed. Kysar's paper will address the ways in which John
has come to be seen as the "spiritual gospel," and the implications this has
had on Johannine scholarship. Fredriksen, as a Historical Jesus scholar,
will then look at the impact these assumptions have carried in contemporary
Jesus research. Respondents will include Marianne Thompson, Harry Attridge,
Jack Verheyden, and Mark Allan Powell--a formidable line-up.
Program: "How John Became the 'Spiritual Gospel'"
Tom Thatcher--Welcome and Introduction
Bob Kysar--"The De-Historicizing of John"
Respondent: Marianne Meye Thompson
Respondent: Harold Attridge
Discussion of Kysar's Paper
Paula Fredriksen--"The De-Johannification of Jesus"
Respondent: Jack Verheyden
Respondent: Mark Allan Powell
Discussion of Fredriksen's Paper
Paul Anderson--Meeting Summary
As you can see, we are reserving almost 90 minutes of our program for
discussion from the floor. We very much solicit your insights and opinions
on the directions this consultation should go. In many ways, we hope at
this meeting to begin to stake out the future direction of research into the
background and composition-history of the Fourth Gospel. Your input will be
Many of you are already on our mailing list, and if this is the case you
will receive copies of the two main papers sometime in early October. If
you are not already on our mailing list and wish to receive copies of the
papers and future announcements, please reply to this message so that we may
add you to our list. Even if you do not have time to read the papers,
please feel free to attend--we believe that you will still appreciate the
group's discussion of the relevant issues. Also, please pass this note
along to any friends and colleagues whom you feel might be interested in
this session, or ask them to get in touch with me.
Please feel free to contact me at any point with questions or comments.
Cincinnati Bible Seminary
2700 Glenway Ave.
Cincinnati, Oh 45204
"the truth will set you free"
- Dear listers
how quiet you are - back to work I suspect.
It was an early theory that John may have been the first Gospel. (I note
the devotional Readings in St John's Gospel by William Temple in which he
holds this position). We live in a different time of course, yet it seems to
me I noted a presentation in a recent post that spoke of the priority of
On another list (Corpus Paulinum), there has been discussion of the origin
of the Eucharist, and as usual, out of my depth, I asked some unanswerable
questions. John of course doesn't have the institution of the Eucharist, but
it does have the most intimate understanding of unity of the body (6:53,
17:20-26) of any Gospel.
Can someone help me historically or liturgically - What could Jesus have
said at the institution of the Eucharist? Could the dialogue in John 6 on
drinking blood have historical reflections? Does this necessarily have to
have been derived from Paul and the influence of mystery religions? That
theory sticks in the craw. My meanderings are summarized off list on my
homepage under articles. (http://bmd.gx.ca/the_blood_of_the_covenant.htm)
The gist of the question is whether Jesus could have talked as a Jew about
drinking blood. My reflection leads me to a yes answer. The life of the body
is in the blood - without his blood we have no life (John 6:53). I guess I
am looking for ways to refine my questions.
Thanks in advance if this is approachable from another angle. I would be
interested in work done on this from a Jewish point of view with some
insight into the historical and psychological possibilities. Devotionally, I
don't have a problem - but language can get very vague when metaphor takes
over without discipline.
+ + + Victoria, B.C., Canada + + +
Catch the foxes for us,
the little foxes that make havoc of the vineyards,
for our vineyards are in flower. (Song 2.15)