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Re: [John_Lit] John and Islam

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  • Mesfin Atlaye
    ... From: James McGrath To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: [John_Lit]
    Message 1 of 3 , Nov 13, 2001
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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "James McGrath" <jamesfrankmcgrath@...>
      To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:16 PM
      Subject: [John_Lit] John and Islam


      > I've often felt that something could be made of the debates within Islam
      > today over whether or not the Quran is eternal, as parallel to the idea
      that
      > the Word/Logos is eternal. The whole line of inquiry that has been
      proposed
      > for this program sounds fascinating!
      >
      > James McGrath
      >
      >
      I add to that:

      Learned Muslims always maintained that the miracle of the Quran is its
      eternal divine origin that it came directly from heaven to the unlearned
      Mohammed (thus, there is no dynamic equivalent to translate its divine
      language, Arabic).

      Secondly, learned Muslims do not necessarily compare Jesus and Mohammed but
      Jesus and the Quran as the divine Word but Mohammed and Mary as bearers of
      the Word. That is why (the apologist would say) Mohammed did not perform
      miracles as Jesus did, after all neither did Miriam, the bearer of Isa. And
      that is why one should not worship Mohammed but Allah alone. It would be
      interesting to see how a Muslim scholar would flesh out such comparisons.
      Good proposal!

      Mesfin Atlaye
      Toronto
    • Staley, Jeffrey
      Jeff Staley writes: Neil Douglas-Klotz gave a paper last year in the SBL Thomas Group in Nashville on Thomas, John, and Bereshith myticism where he talked
      Message 2 of 3 , Nov 16, 2001
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        Jeff Staley writes:

        Neil Douglas-Klotz gave a paper last year in the
        SBL Thomas Group in Nashville on Thomas, John, and "Bereshith myticism"
        where he talked about Islam mysticism as well. He might be willing to do
        something on this topic in relation to Islam and FG.
        His address is:

        Dr. Neil Douglas-Klotz
        Edinburgh Institute for Advanced Learning
        7 East Champanyie
        Edinburgh EH9 3EL
        Scotland
        Tel. 44-131-466-1506
        Email: ndk@...

        Jeff Staley
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