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[John_Lit] Re: Vocabulary in Jo 14-17

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  • Maluflen@aol.com
    In a message dated 6/30/1999 5:01:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, willker@chemie.uni-bremen.de writes:
    Message 1 of 4 , Jul 1, 1999
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      In a message dated 6/30/1999 5:01:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      willker@...-bremen.de writes:

      << I don't think that this is something spectacular, it's just one of these
      small "Ah, see!" experiences.
      Today after compiling new vocabulary lists of John I found out that ch.
      14-17 have a very small number of new words:

      (The numbers are the words that are in this chapter, but not in any of the
      chapters before.)

      Ch. No of new words
      1 198
      2 81
      3 61
      4 97
      5 54
      6 68
      7 42
      8 42
      9 26
      10 33
      11 58
      12 39
      13 28
      -----------------
      14 8
      15 10
      16 12
      17 2
      ----------------
      18 46
      19 62
      20 18
      21 26

      Best wishes
      Wieland >>

      Hey, Wieland, give yourself credit! This is fascinating! Only, I would love
      to know "Ah, see --- what?". Do you have a theory that explains these stats?
      Thanks in advance!

      Leonard Maluf

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    • Stevan Davies
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      Message 2 of 4 , Jul 1, 1999
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        > 18 46
        > 19 62
        > 20 18
        > 21 26
        >
        > Best wishes
        > Wieland >>
        >
        > Hey, Wieland, give yourself credit! This is fascinating! Only, I would love
        > to know "Ah, see --- what?". Do you have a theory that explains these stats?
        > Thanks in advance!

        I'd really like to see percentage stats that give new words
        against total words in the chapters. Do you have software to
        do this? Or can we safely assume all chapters are reasonbly
        equal in length?

        Steve Davies

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      • Wieland Willker
        To satisfy Steve Davies: Ch. 14-17 have the smallest number of completely new words (column B), they have also the smallest number of different words (column
        Message 3 of 4 , Jul 2, 1999
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          To satisfy Steve Davies:
          Ch. 14-17 have the smallest number of completely new words (column B), they
          have also the smallest number of different words (column C). But one has to
          take into account also, that the total number of words is very small (column
          D). But, as the last two columns show: chapter 14-17 is still outstanding.

          A=chapter
          B=Numer of new words, that are not in any of the chapters before
          C=total number of different words in this chapter
          D=total number of words in this chapter

          A B C D B/C B/D
          =================================
          1 198 198 350 100,0 56,6
          2 81 143 222 56,6 36,5
          3 61 163 277 37,4 22,0
          4 97 223 395 43,5 24,6
          5 54 193 361 28,0 15,0
          6 68 239 452 28,5 15,0
          7 42 201 362 20,9 11,6
          8 42 215 399 19,5 10,5
          9 26 147 281 17,7 9,3
          10 33 172 306 19,2 10,8
          11 58 238 407 24,4 14,3
          12 39 248 417 15,7 9,4
          13 28 168 309 16,7 9,1
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          14 8 130 248 6,2 3,2
          15 10 119 226 8,4 4,4
          16 12 136 241 8,8 5,0
          17 2 101 198 2,0 1,0
          -----------------------------------------------------------------
          18 46 192 323 24,0 14,2
          19 62 229 368 27,1 16,8
          20 18 162 276 11,1 6,5
          21 26 172 262 15,1 9,9

          There is something different with ch. 14-17, but what it is is not so clear.
          Is it
          a) these chapters are more John than John? or
          b) these chapters are too John to be John? or
          c) these chapters are pure John?

          Best wishes
          Wieland
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        • Wieland Willker
          Another thing that is not so clearly visible in the table, but obvious in a graphical representation is, that the ch. 11 (Lazaros) and 18/19 have a
          Message 4 of 4 , Jul 3, 1999
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            Another thing that is not so clearly visible in the table, but obvious in a
            graphical representation is, that the ch. 11 (Lazaros) and 18/19 have a
            significantly higher number of new words, than one would expect from an
            e-function behaviour.
            This may be chance, though. One has to study all that in much more detail.

            With the new search tools in Bibleworks one has an infinite number of search
            posibilities which allows for accumulating enormous amounts of statistical
            data.
            Do it, it's fun!

            Best wishes
            Wieland
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            Wieland Willker
            mailto:willker@...-bremen.de
            Please check out the new Greek NT:
            http://purl.org/WILLKER/GNT/books.html


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