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4610[John_Lit] Re: Jesus' use of Greek and urban origins

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  • Martin Edwards
    Apr 10, 2004
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      --- In johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey B. Gibson"
      <jgibson000@c...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > fmmccoy wrote:
      >
      > ><snip> It is difficult to explain how Jesus could have been exposed
      to Cynic
      > > thought if he had spent all his life in the Galilean village of
      Nazareth.
      > > On the other hand, one can readily explain how this could have
      occured if
      > > Jesus had spent part of his life in Tyre and Sidon--two major
      centers of
      > > philosophy.
      >
      > Granting your premise that Jesus **was** exposed to Cynic philosophy, it
      > is important to note not only
      >
      > (1) that your claim that "It is difficult to explain how Jesus could
      > have been exposed to Cynic thought if he had spent all his life in the
      > Galilean village of Nazareth" contains a false dichotomy in that it
      > wrongly assumes that there were no other places besides Tyre and Sidon
      > where Cynic schools of thought were established (it appears that
      > Sephoris also housed such schools, but perhaps even more importantly
      >
      > (2) that the authority you have (as it turns out, wrongly) appealed to,
      > i.e., Crossan (see his _Birth of Christianity_, 334-335 as well as his
      > HJ 421), to support your conclusion that Jesus **was** exposed to
      > Greco-Roman Cynic philosophy in Tyre and Sidon, does not believe the
      > difficulty you postulate as the primary grounds for that conclusion
      > actually exists. In fact, he explicitly states on the very page you
      > cited that, quite contrary to your claim, even had Jesus never traveled
      > beyond or outside of Nazareth, his "sight and knowledge of Cynicism"
      > would have been "... neither inexplicable not unlikely".
      >
      > So if your case is relying on Crossan as it's buttress, it's not a very
      > sturdy case.
      >
      > Yours,
      >
      >
      > Jeffrey Gibson
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      >
      > Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.)
      >
      > 1500 W. Pratt Blvd. #1
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      > jgibson000@c...

      This brings up another interesting point. Why is Sepphoris never
      mentioned in the NT when several other cities are? If there was a
      Nazareth at the time it would have been part of the socioeconomic and,
      presumably, cultural ambit of Sepphoris.

      Martin Edwards BA(UEA) PGCE(Hull) RT(England and Wales)
      No current institution.
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