Re: Family name/Patronymic Help
- Goldcrook, looks like you've been doing your
homework as far as US paperwork is concerned! Did your
relatives vote in elections? If so, see MSG 188 for a
useful trick in finding the key Naturalization papers
that may contain better information.<br><br>Anyway,
assuming this stone was turned, you have a very
interesting and confusing problem on your hands. No
insightful help from me, just some clues:<br><br>1) Assume
the death/tombstone information is incorrect, unless
proven otherwise. If no survivors knew who the parents
were for the death certificate, why would they know
the right information to put on the tombstone? I
generally go by the rule of thumb that the farther the
record is from the birth, the more chance for
inaccuracy. Clearly his name on the tombstone should have
been Avrum, not Motl. Sometimes, if no one knows the
correct Hebrew lineage, the funeral director will make
something up, using either Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob
(Israel) as the Hebrew patronymic.<br><br>2) Ander or
Andre would be a Russified version of the name
"Alexander" (which is relatively rare in Eastern European
Jews) or the name "Sender" (an abbreviation of
Alexander, which is really, really common in Eastern
European Jews).<br><br>3) Rules for patronymics in
Russian: suffix "-ovich" means son of; suffix "-ovna"
means daughter of. For abbreviation purposes, sometimes
you will see Russian records with "-ov" so as not to
pass judgement on whether it is a male or female's
father.<br><br>4) Goldgleet means "Gold litharge", in other words,
it means someone who makes Lead Oxide, a yellow
pigment used in paints, dyes and colored glass. This was
an unusual occupation, something that maybe you can
trace in the old country.
- I am looking for the surnames ZILBERMAN, KARP and EPSTEIN of
Yarburg, Lithuania and JUDKOWSKY of Serednik, Lithuania.
--- In email@example.com, jeffreyrstern wrote:
> I have just begun to research my European roots.
> Have learned that my maternal grandfather was from
> Yurburg, Lithuania. The family name was eithrn Arnstein or
> Arshtein. Looking for any possible relatives....