1165RE: Re: [jasspa] Hello the list
- Sep 10, 2004I was suggesting that I create the macros...
From: Tony Bedford [mailto:tbedford_csl@...]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [jasspa] Hello the list
I was going to try to hook up to an external tool as that was the line of
If I get time to tweak macros and so on I will post them here.
Thanks a lot for your advice.
>From: Steven Phillips <bill@...>_________________________________________________________________
>To: Tony Bedford <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: [jasspa] Hello the list
>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 19:20:49 +0100
>It sounds like some of the macros from the html hooks need to be lifted
>edited plenty of html files but not many xml ones yet :) Simple building
>blocks like xml-forward-tag, xml-goto-match-tag etc should be sufficient to
>create a pretty good validator (with further tweaking required etc). The
>completion should also be easy and fits in with the general abbreviation
>In the interim would loading the xml file into netscape/iexplorer be
>If so you could either lift the function from htmlutil.emf (exec htmlutil
>run command html-view-netscape etc) or create a user-setup -> Tools to
>another external program.
> > Subject: [jasspa] Hello the list
> > From: Tony Bedford <tbedford_csl@...>
> > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2004, 12:54:18 PM
> > To: email@example.com
> > OK Thanks Jon.
> > Thanks for the information. If I make any progress with either the email
> > setup or
> > linking to HTML tidy, I will let the list know.
> > Been happily editing away on my XSL stylesheet this morning and happy to
> > report
> > no slowdown! :D
> > By the way I loaded a large perl program and it came up instantly, I am
> > not used to that after Jedit. :)
> > I would say installation was fairly straightforward, but that ME put a
> > couple of files
> > in places that I wasn't expecting: me32.ini and my user.emf file. It
> > took me
> > a little while to figure out that my user.emf was actually called
> > tbedford.emf in
> > my case :) On the whole no problems though.
> > Yes I think XML validation can partly be done with Macros, or even by an
> > external program. Yes, it's mainly to ensure that elements are closed
> > correctly. One nice feature that I think could be done in a macro is tag
> > completion...so you type </ and then the correct tag is completed for
> > I am using The Doctor's auto-completion macro to partially do this (By
> > way
> > The Doc's line completion macro is something I've used quite a bit too).
> > OK, cheers.
> > Tony
> >>From: Jon Green <jon@...>
> >>Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> >>To: email@example.com
> >>Subject: Re: [jasspa] Hello the list
> >>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:29:31 +0100
> >>Tony Bedford wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Just a note to say I just started using MicroEmacs and really like
> >> > I had been using Jedit (the Java based editor), which has some very
> >> > features, but in the end I gave up out of frustration with it's
> >> > when working on large XSL style sheets. The same style sheet loads
> >> > in ME and ME never seems to slow down :)
> >> >
> >> > Things I like about MicroEmacs:
> >> > - lightning fast, loads quickly and large files load instantly
> >> > - easy to set up for basic editing.
> >> > - easy to add new macros.
> >> > - sensible auto indenting.
> >> > - auto spell is very useful as I write documentation.
> >> > - in built colour schemes are quite nifty.
> >> > - access to tools such as grep, mail etc.
> >> > - ability to read man pages and Perl docs in the editor is very
> >>handy :)
> >> >
> >>Hi Tony,
> >> Thanks for the E-Mail. Cheered me up this morning. Nice
> >> to get some positive feedback from time to time.
> >> > Things that I would like to see more info and practical examples on:
> >> > - setting up MicroEmacs to read email on Windows (that would be
> >> > convenient).
> >> See the help page vm(3) for E-Mail support. I must confess I
> >> do not use it that often, mainly for sending.
> >> You need to download "postie" and "blat" to
> >> send/receive from Windows environments.
> >> > - ability to validate XML docs.
> >> Nobody has asked for this, but I agree it would be pretty
> >> useful in SGML as well. XML is well structured (as is SGML)
> >> so it should be possible to do this in a macro. I assume
> >> that you just want to check that your opening and closing
> >> tags pair correctly. Obviously the hilighting will provide
> >> visual feedback for some faults (i.e. missing quotation
> >> on attribute etc.) in addition to indentation.
> >> >
> >> > One thing I think would be cool is to try and get some links
> >> > on the ME home page to people actively using ME. I'd like to know
> >> > what other cool things people are doing with ME.
> >> To be honest we never really know what people
> >> are doing with it, or for that matter how many
> >> people are using it or who is using it. There are
> >> a few people on the group who contribute
> >> new macros, templates and ideas which get added
> >> directly or form the basis of a set of new
> >> features in subsequent releases. There have
> >> been some good ideas that have popped out
> >> in the last couple of years as people
> >> attempt to do different things with the editor.
> >> One interesting link that I turned up
> >> earlier in the year on what people do with
> >> the editor was this one:-
> >> Jasspa MicroEmacs appears in the index of the
> >> book:-
> >> TiVo Hacks
> >> 100 Industrial-Strength Tips & Tools
> >> By Raffi Krikorian
> >> August 2003
> >> ISBN: 0-596-00553-9
> >> I've never seen the book and am quite
> >> curious as to why the reference is there
> >> and why in the Index.
> >> >
> >> > If I get time I am going to see if I can hook up ME to HTML Tidy,
> >> > would be useful. Not sure when that will be though!
> >> >
> >> Well if you do then please let us know how you
> >> did it them we will can redistribute the information
> >> or extend the HTML template.
> >> Obviously any feedback from a new user perspective
> >> is also useful, things that you find difficult,
> >> badly explained etc. We are aware that we are
> >> deficient in terms of a high level user manual.
> >> There are a lot of manual pages which pretty
> >> much document every command and variable but
> >> very little high level documentation. We have
> >> plans to address this just a question of time !
> >> > Thanks for a great editor.
> >> >
> >> > Tony
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