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  • Tony Bedford
    Sep 10, 2004
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      I was going to try to hook up to an external tool as that was the line of
      least resistance...
      If I get time to tweak macros and so on I will post them here.

      Thanks a lot for your advice.

      Tony


      >From: Steven Phillips <bill@...>
      >Reply-To: jasspa@yahoogroups.com
      >To: Tony Bedford <jasspa@yahoogroups.com>
      >Subject: Re[2]: [jasspa] Hello the list
      >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 19:20:49 +0100
      >
      >It sounds like some of the macros from the html hooks need to be lifted
      >(I've
      >edited plenty of html files but not many xml ones yet :) Simple building
      >blocks like xml-forward-tag, xml-goto-match-tag etc should be sufficient to
      >create a pretty good validator (with further tweaking required etc). The
      >tab
      >completion should also be easy and fits in with the general abbreviation
      >stuff.
      >
      >In the interim would loading the xml file into netscape/iexplorer be
      >helpful?
      >If so you could either lift the function from htmlutil.emf (exec htmlutil
      >and
      >run command html-view-netscape etc) or create a user-setup -> Tools to
      >launch
      >another external program.
      >
      >Steve
      >
      >
      > > Subject: [jasspa] Hello the list
      > > From: Tony Bedford <tbedford_csl@...>
      > > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2004, 12:54:18 PM
      > > To: jasspa@yahoogroups.com
      > > OK Thanks Jon.
      >
      > > Thanks for the information. If I make any progress with either the email
      > > setup or
      > > linking to HTML tidy, I will let the list know.
      >
      > > Been happily editing away on my XSL stylesheet this morning and happy to
      > > report
      > > no slowdown! :D
      >
      > > By the way I loaded a large perl program and it came up instantly, I am
      >just
      > > not used to that after Jedit. :)
      >
      > > I would say installation was fairly straightforward, but that ME put a
      > > couple of files
      > > in places that I wasn't expecting: me32.ini and my user.emf file. It
      >also
      > > took me
      > > a little while to figure out that my user.emf was actually called
      > > tbedford.emf in
      > > my case :) On the whole no problems though.
      >
      > > Yes I think XML validation can partly be done with Macros, or even by an
      > > external program. Yes, it's mainly to ensure that elements are closed
      >off
      > > correctly. One nice feature that I think could be done in a macro is tag
      > > completion...so you type </ and then the correct tag is completed for
      >you.
      > > I am using The Doctor's auto-completion macro to partially do this (By
      >the
      > > way
      > > The Doc's line completion macro is something I've used quite a bit too).
      >
      > > OK, cheers.
      > > Tony
      >
      >
      > >>From: Jon Green <jon@...>
      > >>Reply-To: jasspa@yahoogroups.com
      > >>To: jasspa@yahoogroups.com
      > >>Subject: Re: [jasspa] Hello the list
      > >>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:29:31 +0100
      > >>
      > >>Tony Bedford wrote:
      > >> > Hi,
      > >> >
      > >> > Just a note to say I just started using MicroEmacs and really like
      >it.
      > >> > I had been using Jedit (the Java based editor), which has some very
      >nice
      > >> > features, but in the end I gave up out of frustration with it's
      >slowness
      > >> > when working on large XSL style sheets. The same style sheet loads
      > >>instantly
      > >> > in ME and ME never seems to slow down :)
      > >> >
      > >> > Things I like about MicroEmacs:
      > >> > - lightning fast, loads quickly and large files load instantly
      >too.
      > >> > - easy to set up for basic editing.
      > >> > - easy to add new macros.
      > >> > - sensible auto indenting.
      > >> > - auto spell is very useful as I write documentation.
      > >> > - in built colour schemes are quite nifty.
      > >> > - access to tools such as grep, mail etc.
      > >> > - ability to read man pages and Perl docs in the editor is very
      > >>handy :)
      > >> >
      > >>
      > >>Hi Tony,
      > >>
      > >> Thanks for the E-Mail. Cheered me up this morning. Nice
      > >> to get some positive feedback from time to time.
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> > Things that I would like to see more info and practical examples on:
      > >> > - setting up MicroEmacs to read email on Windows (that would be
      >SO
      > >> > convenient).
      > >>
      > >> See the help page vm(3) for E-Mail support. I must confess I
      > >> do not use it that often, mainly for sending.
      > >> You need to download "postie" and "blat" to
      > >> send/receive from Windows environments.
      > >>
      > >> > - ability to validate XML docs.
      > >>
      > >> Nobody has asked for this, but I agree it would be pretty
      > >> useful in SGML as well. XML is well structured (as is SGML)
      > >> so it should be possible to do this in a macro. I assume
      > >> that you just want to check that your opening and closing
      > >> tags pair correctly. Obviously the hilighting will provide
      > >> visual feedback for some faults (i.e. missing quotation
      > >> on attribute etc.) in addition to indentation.
      > >>
      > >> >
      > >> > One thing I think would be cool is to try and get some links
      > >> > on the ME home page to people actively using ME. I'd like to know
      > >> > what other cool things people are doing with ME.
      > >>
      > >> To be honest we never really know what people
      > >> are doing with it, or for that matter how many
      > >> people are using it or who is using it. There are
      > >> a few people on the group who contribute
      > >> new macros, templates and ideas which get added
      > >> directly or form the basis of a set of new
      > >> features in subsequent releases. There have
      > >> been some good ideas that have popped out
      > >> in the last couple of years as people
      > >> attempt to do different things with the editor.
      > >>
      > >> One interesting link that I turned up
      > >> earlier in the year on what people do with
      > >> the editor was this one:-
      > >>
      > >>http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tivohks/inx.html
      > >>
      > >> Jasspa MicroEmacs appears in the index of the
      > >> book:-
      > >>
      > >> TiVo Hacks
      > >> 100 Industrial-Strength Tips & Tools
      > >> By Raffi Krikorian
      > >> August 2003
      > >> ISBN: 0-596-00553-9
      > >>
      > >> I've never seen the book and am quite
      > >> curious as to why the reference is there
      > >> and why in the Index.
      > >>
      > >> >
      > >> > If I get time I am going to see if I can hook up ME to HTML Tidy,
      >which
      > >> > would be useful. Not sure when that will be though!
      > >> >
      > >>
      > >> Well if you do then please let us know how you
      > >> did it them we will can redistribute the information
      > >> or extend the HTML template.
      > >>
      > >> Obviously any feedback from a new user perspective
      > >> is also useful, things that you find difficult,
      > >> badly explained etc. We are aware that we are
      > >> deficient in terms of a high level user manual.
      > >> There are a lot of manual pages which pretty
      > >> much document every command and variable but
      > >> very little high level documentation. We have
      > >> plans to address this just a question of time !
      > >>
      > >>Regards
      > >>Jon
      > >>
      > >> > Thanks for a great editor.
      > >> >
      > >> > Tony
      > >>
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