Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: Jains Today Dangerous Game Played by the Outsider Jains

Expand Messages
  • thaker pankaj
    All issue is futile. Remember, A man (Manushya) is in total darkness as to his status, prior to birth and subsequent to death. All that is known is about the
    Message 1 of 3 , Jan 29, 2010
    • 0 Attachment

      All issue is futile. � Remember, "A man (Manushya) is in total darkness as to his status, prior to birth and subsequent to death. All that is known is about the period called life, during which man takes birth, grows up through the various stages of life, experiencing pain and suffering as also fleeting joys and sorrows, till life comes to an end in the form of death beyond which is nothing is known. � Religion come into existence just because of fear of death. The religion is being explained by so many saint, mahatma, munishri, with the help of so called stories and examples. Whenever we go further, reply is "matter of trust (Shraddha)" and Irony is "Shraddha & UndhShraddha" are two sides of a coin. � Nobody is able to differentiate them. � While learning the theory of "Karma" when we asked what was the first Karma of a respective jive, when it come into existance. � It is said that "JIVES are there for million years" Good escape. There is no proof, no evidence of anything what is the reality so far as Moksha is concerned. � These people are not able to do anything but to give lectures. � They are not able to ask their followers to stop corruption. � They are not able to make even a single man honest, hard working and patronic. � 90% of the world population are non-vegetarian. � Are these people PAPI according to Jainizm ? � Indian Hindus are good for nothing. � They do not have power enough as compared to minority of terrorism community. �


      Bear with these people "GOD WILL PUNISH THEM" � KARM WILL GIVE RESULT..... HA..HA.. HA..



      --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Mahavir Sanglikar <msanglikar@...> wrote:

      From: Mahavir Sanglikar <msanglikar@...>
      Subject: Jains Today Dangerous Game Played by the Outsider Jains
      To:
      Cc: riteshsarak@..., worldbihariforum@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 8:23 PM

      Dangerous Game Played by the Outsider Jains

      -Professor Pradeep Phaltane

      It is very painful thing that outsider Jains are playing a very dangerous game with the indigenous Jains of Eastern India.

      There is an indigenous Jain community called Sarak, (pronounced as ‘Saraak’) in the eastern states of Jharkhand, West Bengal, Orissa and Bihar . They are basically cultivators, spread in various villages of the above states. They are neither Digambars nor Shwetambars, and follow Jainism in their own way.

      In recent 100-150 years, many Jains of western India were migrated to this region. These Jains included both Digambars and Shwetambars, especially from Rajsthan. Using their financial strength and habitual conspiracies mind, they captured all of the ancient pilgrimage centers in this part of India , which include Parasnath Hill (Sammed Shikharji), Pavapuri, Rajgrahi, Udaygiri-Khandgiri, Champapuri etc. Then there started a war between these Digambars and Shwetambars for the ‘ownerships’ of the pilgrimage centers. This created a nationwide rift between the followers of these two sects.

      The population of these outsider Jains in this region is very small. To fight with one another, they require local manpower. In recent few years, they found that they could use Saraks for fighting the war as the population of Saraks is very big and they are spread all over the region. So the outsiders started to make contacts with poors of the Sarak community, offering monitorial help for them. The outsiders have established some welfare trusts for Saraks. But this is not for the love for the Saraks, but only for hidden cruel intentions. Notable thing is that the outsiders were never in touch of Saraks before, and they always had denied the Jain identity of the Saraks. Now the outsiders are presenting Saraks as poor Jain people and collecting huge donations in the name of welfare.

      The very bad thing the outsider Jains are doing with Saraks is that they are recruiting them in their respective sects. So the Sarak community is being divided into Digambar Saraks and Shwetambar Saraks. The outsiders are spreading ritualistic Jainism amongst the Saraks, involving them in temple building, idol worshipping and hatred of other Jain sects. No other constructive works like educating, scholarships, social causes etc. are going on.

      Now the outsiders are looking for the fruit… the only fruit that is the fights between Digambar Saraks and Shwetambar Saraks, for the outsiders’ cause! The Seths living in the bunglows of Ahemdabad, Jaipur and Delhi will command these fights.

      Saraks should beware of these outsiders, who are playing this cruel game with them. This is the time to awake and drive out the intruders from the managing trusts of the pilgrimage centers.

      What Saraks should do?

      1. The very first thing the Saraks should remember that they are the aboriginal Jains of their region and the descendents of the ancient Jains. The Jain pilgrimage centers in their region belong originally to them. So the pilgrimage centers should be controlled by Saraks only.
      2. Saraks should keep themselves away from ritualistic Jainism. They should not involve in extremist views about Jain philosophy and food habits.
      3. Saraks should keep a safe distance from the outsider Jains. Saraks should believe in unity of all Jains, but not by sacrificing their own culture and regional identity. Unity is welcome only if the Sarak community gets equal rights.
      4. Saraks should keep in mind that they are not poor. In fact the outsider Jains are the real poors as they are only financially rich, and you will find that there are no intellectuals, teachers, professors, journalists, sportspersons, writers, I.P.S. and I.A.S. officers etc. amongst them. The Sarak community is richer when we consider this thing.
      5. Saraks should oppose the outsiders if they are changing the original structures of the ancient and medieval Jain temples in Eastern India .
      6. Last but not the least, Saraks should concentrate on the overall progress of the community.For this, instead of taking help from outsider Jains, they should take benefits of State Government Schemes which are available for all Jains under Minority Status, and the schemes for O.B.C. / S.T. etc. which are available for Saraks. Further, there are many schemes from State Governments for unemployed people for starting small business and industries.

      For implementing all this, Saraks should establish their own organization, which should cover Saraks of all the states.

      Professor Pradeep Phaltane

      President, Moolnivasi Jain Parishad

      163 Yashwant nagar

      Talegaon Station, Pune 410512

      Cell: 0 988 152 5766

      moolnivasi.jain@ yahoo.com



    • Sekar A
      The concern on culture change due to people from other places is common for multi cultural and linguistic country like India especially small communities like
      Message 2 of 3 , Jan 31, 2010
      • 0 Attachment
        The concern on culture change due to people from other places is common for multi cultural and linguistic country like India especially small communities like jains. Even in Tamilnadu anicent culture of very old temples are being changed slowly as per the taste and practice of migrated and newly settled members who are in a position to make financial contribution. For instance blackstone culture of south is being replaced by marble based approach which may be argued as fusionb of cultures but in posterity it may mistaken that jainism came to south only in 2000 AD not BC. One day or other this may invite Government intervention to protect heritage of respective areas. Best we should show religious tolerance and co operation within religion for respective culture,heritage and practice and architecture. In personal experience we found many are interested in fusion of minds and not confusion in the name of fusion of culures disturbing age old structures. We are confident in years to come the few who influence or impose cultural change on other culture will also change their minds to respect others' culture, heritage- Intra religious and cultural tolerance and co operation is possible
         
        SEKAR


        --- On Fri, 1/29/10, thaker pankaj <frank_paerina@...> wrote:

        From: thaker pankaj <frank_paerina@...>
        Subject: Re: Jains Today Dangerous Game Played by the Outsider Jains
        To: jainstoday@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:57 PM

         
        All issue is futile. Â Remember, "A man (Manushya) is in total darkness as to his status, prior to birth and subsequent to death. All that is known is about the period called life, during which man takes birth, grows up through the various stages of life, experiencing pain and suffering as also fleeting joys and sorrows, till life comes to an end in the form of death beyond which is nothing is known. Â Religion come into existence just because of fear of death. The religion is being explained by so many saint, mahatma, munishri, with the help of so called stories and examples. Whenever we go further, reply is "matter of trust (Shraddha)" and Irony is "Shraddha & UndhShraddha" are two sides of a coin. Â Nobody is able to differentiate them. Â While learning the theory of "Karma" when we asked what was the first Karma of a respective jive, when it come into existance. Â It is said that "JIVES are there for million years" Good escape. There is no proof, no evidence of anything what is the reality so far as Moksha is concerned. Â These people are not able to do anything but to give lectures. Â They are not able to ask their followers to stop corruption. Â They are not able to make even a single man honest, hard working and patronic. Â 90% of the world population are non-vegetarian. Â Are these people PAPI according to Jainizm ? Â Indian Hindus are good for nothing. Â They do not have power enough as compared to minority of terrorism community. Â

        Bear with these people "GOD WILL PUNISH THEM" Â KARM WILL GIVE RESULT..... HA..HA.. HA..


        --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Mahavir Sanglikar <msanglikar@yahoo. com> wrote:

        From: Mahavir Sanglikar <msanglikar@yahoo. com>
        Subject: Jains Today Dangerous Game Played by the Outsider Jains
        To:
        Cc: riteshsarak@ gmail.com, worldbihariforum@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 8:23 PM

        Â

        Dangerous Game Played by the Outsider Jains

        -Professor Pradeep Phaltane

        Â

        It is very painful thing that outsider Jains are playing a very dangerous game with the indigenous Jains of Eastern India.

        Â

        There is an indigenous Jain community called Sarak, (pronounced as ‘Saraak’) in the eastern states of Jharkhand, West Bengal, Orissa and Bihar . They are basically cultivators, spread in various villages of the above states. They are neither Digambars nor Shwetambars, and follow Jainism in their own way.

        Â

        In recent 100-150 years, many Jains of western India were migrated to this region. These Jains included both Digambars and Shwetambars, especially from Rajsthan. Using their financial strength and habitual conspiracies mind, they captured all of the ancient pilgrimage centers in this part of India , which include Parasnath Hill (Sammed Shikharji), Pavapuri, Rajgrahi, Udaygiri-Khandgiri, Champapuri etc. Then there started a war between these Digambars and Shwetambars for the ‘ownerships’ of the pilgrimage centers. This created a nationwide rift between the followers of these two sects.

        Â

        The population of these outsider Jains in this region is very small. To fight with one another, they require local manpower. In recent few years, they found that they could use Saraks for fighting the war as the population of Saraks is very big and they are spread all over the region. So the outsiders started to make contacts with poors of the Sarak community, offering monitorial help for them. The outsiders have established some welfare trusts for Saraks. But this is not for the love for the Saraks, but only for hidden cruel intentions. Notable thing is that the outsiders were never in touch of Saraks before, and they always had denied the Jain identity of the Saraks. Now the outsiders are presenting Saraks as poor Jain people and collecting huge donations in the name of welfare.

        Â

        The very bad thing the outsider Jains are doing with Saraks is that they are recruiting them in their respective sects. So the Sarak community is being divided into Digambar Saraks and Shwetambar Saraks. The outsiders are spreading ritualistic Jainism amongst the Saraks, involving them in temple building, idol worshipping and hatred of other Jain sects. No other constructive works like educating, scholarships, social causes etc. are going on.

        Â

        Now the outsiders are looking for the fruit… the only fruit that is the fights between Digambar Saraks and Shwetambar Saraks, for the outsiders’ cause! The Seths living in the bunglows of Ahemdabad, Jaipur and Delhi will command these fights.

        Â

        Saraks should beware of these outsiders, who are playing this cruel game with them. This is the time to awake and drive out the intruders from the managing trusts of the pilgrimage centers.

        Â

        What Saraks should do?

        Â

        1. The very first thing the Saraks should remember that they are the aboriginal Jains of their region and the descendents of the ancient Jains. The Jain pilgrimage centers in their region belong originally to them. So the pilgrimage centers should be controlled by Saraks only.
        2. Saraks should keep themselves away from ritualistic Jainism. They should not involve in extremist views about Jain philosophy and food habits.
        3. Saraks should keep a safe distance from the outsider Jains. Saraks should believe in unity of all Jains, but not by sacrificing their own culture and regional identity. Unity is welcome only if the Sarak community gets equal rights.
        4. Saraks should keep in mind that they are not poor. In fact the outsider Jains are the real poors as they are only financially rich, and you will find that there are no intellectuals, teachers, professors, journalists, sportspersons, writers, I.P.S. and I.A.S. officers etc. amongst them. The Sarak community is richer when we consider this thing.
        5. Saraks should oppose the outsiders if they are changing the original structures of the ancient and medieval Jain temples in Eastern India .
        6. Last but not the least, Saraks should concentrate on the overall progress of the community. For this, instead of taking help from outsider Jains, they should take benefits of State Government Schemes which are available for all Jains under Minority Status, and the schemes for O.B.C. / S.T. etc. which are available for Saraks. Further, there are many schemes from State Governments for unemployed people for starting small business and industries.

        Â

        For implementing all this, Saraks should establish their own organization, which should cover Saraks of all the states.Â

        Â

        Â

        Professor Pradeep Phaltane

        President, Moolnivasi Jain Parishad

        163 Yashwant nagar

        Talegaon Station, Pune 410512

        Cell: 0 988 152 5766

        moolnivasi.jain@ yahoo.com

        Â



      Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.