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______________________________________________________J.A.I.L. Will ProvideWhat A Revolution CannotWhen the smoke clears and the wounded and dead bodiesare hauled away, we'll still have remaining a system of unaccountable judiciary in need of J.A.I.L.Steven Pattison, stevenpattison@..., wrote in response toWe Cannot Expect Good Fruit From A Corrupt Tree (JNJ 4/11):----- Original Message -----From: Steven PattisonSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:36 AMSubject: Re: * * We Cannot Expect Good Fruit From A Corrupt Tree * *
Barbie,First thanks for sending out my email located as the last part of this email and this is a reply to your reply to my first email!I agree with your overall statement that "The People cannot expect officials of a corrupt system to "reinstall lawful government."" but first the people have to understand that we have an unlawful government called a 'de facto government' before anyone will care to stand up for their unalienable Rights!The elected and appointed representatives changed our 'character and status' right after the 'Civil War' and they did that without a delegated authority from us in the beginning! An act of treason on their part!Only We the People can change the form of government of Our government!We the People, the sovereigns without subject, won that status from the result of the Revolutionary War. But because there were traitors within the 'White House' they have been able to change Our Common Law Constitutional Republican Form of Government to a Democracy. Because we no longer are provided with a Republican Form of Government which is provided for in the Constitution for the de jure United States of American, I have to believe that there were people working within the our government to destroy our character as free people, the rightful owners of the country, the de jure United States of American and not the de facto United States of American which is explained in the web pages post below.Most people dont know the first thing about their character and status or even what the Constitution for the de jure United States of America is all about! The Constitution is a declaratory and restrictive grant from the People, without subjects, to the appointed and elected officials. What follows is part of some of our research our group did long ago:The Declaration of Rights should only be found in the state constitutions, and not in front of the alleged first ten articles of amendment of the constitution of the united States of America. The alleged Bill of Rights under the first ten articles of amendment of the constitution for the united States of America is a fiction. The alleged first ten articles of amendment are not a Bill of Rights, nor are they a Declaration of Rights, they are just as they say they are "Amendments." The alleged first ten articles of amendment of the constitution of the united States of America are declaratory and restrictive clauses added to the constitution of the united States of America for the sole purpose as to prevent misconstruction or abuse of governmental powers by the Peoples elected and appointed representatives. These amendments placed restrictions or restraints upon our servants, by the people of the united States of America. There should not be a Bill of Rights in any of the state constitutions or the constitution of the united States of America.If you or anyone else wants the rest of the research just ask for it! And there are others that have done some research. At this web site http://www.harbornet.com/rights/lindat.html you will find:
Effective December 15, 1791
Articles in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.
The conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution.
After We the Peoples character were changed from the sovereigns to a member of the political community, owing allegiance and being entitled to the enjoyment of full civil rights, our government became the de facto government without authority!
Political community is explained here http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/RIGHTS.htm
The civil rights that are talked about here are only for subject while unalienable rights are only for the sovereigns without subject, We the People! Changing the government started with changing the how Common Law was used and how Civil Law was used within our lawful government!
Common Law provides and protects our unalienable rights while Civil Law protects civil rights of the people that are subject to the system that has taken over our life and known as the de facto government! This web page explains the difference between Common Law and Civil Law: http://www.svpvril.com/comcivlaw.html
And the last sentence within the web page reads:
When the United Colonies met in Congress, in 1774, they claimed the common law of England as a branch of those "indubitable rights and liberties to which the respective colonies are entitled." And the common law, like a silent providence is still the preserver of our liberties.
When the Colonies became States they adopted Common Law! The following is part of our research:
Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the state of Missouri as follows:
Sec. 1. The common law of England, and all statutes and acts of parliament made prior to the fourth year of the reign of James the first, and which are of a general nature, not local to that kingdom, which common law and statutes are not repugnant to, or inconsistent with, the constitution of the United States, the constitution of this state, or the statute laws in force for the time being, shall be the rule of action and decision in this state, any law, usage or custom, to the contrary notwithstanding.
We believe that all the union states pre 1861 did the same. Knowing that someone is controlling us without authority is not necessarily an act of war upon the People!
I really believe that Madison knew because of what he wrote here:
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: and a People who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."
James Madison to WT Barry, August 4, 1822.
This brings me back to if the People are ignorant of the truth then we will never have a chance at being our own governours! I believe when enough people know the truth and how the current de facto government is not providing us with a Republican Form of Government then and only then will anything every happen!
Here is part of another email that I sent out some time ago:
The following may not be on the net for long, therefore I recommend to copy the web pages and save them on a disk.
http://www.svpvril.com/dm_OTFG.html by Dan Meador
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=77417;title=APFN by Steven Pattison
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/misc/FerranOnMeador.htm by New York Attorney Mark Ferran
http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/irshist.htm by Dan Meador
http://www.sweetliberty.org/staterights2.htm by Dan Meador
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/RIGHTS.htm by Steven Pattison
You may have to copy and paste the address into the box but if you cannot get them let me know and I will get them to you some how!
Because this is research done by a lot of people covering almost 200 years of history, the only way for you to understand it, is to call me with any questions you may have at any point in your reading of the well document material posted above.
Now that you know that it is not China, the country or the people of China doing this directly to us, please read http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/FA23Dj01.html
The people behind this are using China, don't you think? Why? Because if everyone knew who really was behind what is going on, it would stop over night!
(Our response)Steven:First I thank you (and so many others) for all the research you have done in search of (1) discovering what the problem is, and (2) what the People must do about it, i.e., the solution. The first one was well covered, as it is by many researchers and historians out there, but it is the second quest that I find so lacking in feasibility.Every suggestion I come across in my readings of so many research products on the internet involves the oppressed People seeking resolution from, by, and through the Oppressor (de facto government)-- making "demands" to the Enemy of the People that it straighten up and fly right. Doesn't that smack of ipso facto "impossibility" right from the outset? --by the fact itself that we're negotiating with our Enemy? --whether we call it making demands, petitioning, demonstrating, picketing-- whatever. Hence, the title of my JNJ to which you are responding: "We Cannot Expect Good Fruit From A Corrupt Tree."We have to keep in mind that there are only two entities in American society: The People (represented by de jure government) and The Enemy of the People (represented by de facto government). Get rid of all the clutter in your mind, for that is what it all boils down to. The simpler we keep it, the easier it will be to figure out. It is the complexities that get in our way, and that of course is the agenda of the Enemy against the People-- to keep us confused and frightened; to keep the smoke, dust, and mirrors in constant commotion to obscure the truth. And think about it-- that's ALL the Enemy has "going" for it: Just keep the People confused and play on their ignorance of the truth. And it has been working for over 200 years! To me, that's incredible-- but TRUE.Getting back to the issue I raised with your writing, i.e., "all we have to do is demand that our elected and appointed officials reinstall the lawful government," you respond as follows:
"I agree with your overall statement that 'The People cannot expect officials of a corrupt system to "reinstall lawful government." ' but first the people have to understand that we have an unlawful government called a 'de facto government' before anyone will care to stand up for their unalienable Rights!"Steven, as a fervent user of the internet, don't you see that the People DO "understand that we have an unlawful government" (regardless of what it is legally called)? That brings me back to what I said above, i.e., "The first one (the problem-- that we have an unlawful government) was well covered, as it is by many researchers and historians out there, but it is the second quest (what we do about it) that I find so lacking in feasibility." I see that you agree that your suggestion regarding the "second quest" is infeasible, as I quoted from you in the preceding paragraph.But Steven, upon realizing that, are you not then simply reverting right back to point #1-- understanding the problem ("before anyone will care to stand up for their unalienable Rights!")? As I said, just from viewing what the People say on the internet, I see that it is obvious that they have reached the point of realizing the need "to stand up for their unalienable Rights!" We don't have to go back to discovering why that is necessary. So we're really at point #2 -- specifically what needs to be done "to stand up for [those] Rights." That's where we are, Steven. Precisely what are we to do?The People, or enough of them, have graduated from point #1 to point #2. Now they're ready to implement the proper solution, once they realize what that solution is. And now you understand that is isn't "demand that our elected and appointed officials reinstall the lawful government."The solution has to come from and by the People themselves-- independent of "de facto government" (unlawful government)which is all there is, since the de jure government (government authorized by Law-- the Constitution) has ceased to exist, or more accurately, never did exist because it never functioned as such, since ratification. That it has to come from the People is evident because enough of the People do realize that de facto government is unable to provide the remedy, because by nature, it can't! (For starters, it has an inherent conflict of interest).We Cannot Expect Good Fruit From A Corrupt Tree!Now-- having realized that, the next question is: Is there a solution available for the People to implement, independently of de facto government, to safeguard their unalienable Rights? FOLKS, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT J.A.I.L. IS! The People have graduated to the point of finally doing what needs to be done-- because we have the means by which to do it. ("To provide new guards for [our] future security." --The DOI)J.A.I.L. is not "just another law" that de facto government will ignore like they do existing laws. (Why pass one more law that government will only ignore, right? We hear that constantly!) Folks, PLEASE! What distinguishes J.A.I.L. from "just another law" is that it is a People's function-- not government. De facto government will not be able to ignore the J.A.I.L. process because it is the object of that process. Do you see the distinction? Government is not the wielder of that law-- The People are! J.A.I.L. is the Law of all Laws, along with the Supreme Law of the Land-- the Constitution. It is the Law that will ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION which will restore de jure government! Is that not what we, as a People, have the DUTY to do? (See the Declaration of Independence). A fighting revolution won't do it. When the smoke clears and the wounded and dead bodies are hauled away, we'll still have remaining a system of unaccountable judiciary in need of J.A.I.L. In other words, J.A.I.L. will provide what a revolution cannot.-Barbie-
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