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  • Clay Gullatt
    Janel Try the BLM land records site http//www.glorecords.blm.gov/ There are two records for Joel Harrison patenting land in Jackson Co. 1st 11/20/1847 2nd
    Message 1 of 10 , Jul 5 5:34 PM
      Janel

      Try the BLM land records site http//www.glorecords.blm.gov/
      There are two records for Joel Harrison patenting land in Jackson Co.
      1st 11/20/1847 2nd 10/1/1860.

      On the 1860 there is indexed a Juel Harrison 65 AL living in the
      household of J.P. 35 b.AL and Sarah 28 b.TN HAWK. This may be your Joel.

      Clay

      --- In jacksongenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "Janel Woodbury"
      <janel_woodbury@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi I'm Janel Woodbury. I'm researching the McCutchen and Harrison
      > lines in Jackson/Madison/Morgan/and Marshall Counties, Alabama.
      > I was in touch with Charlie McCutchen awhile back who is a member
      > here and have seen his McCutchen Trace website.
      >
      > I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Harrison. In the 1850
      > Jackson County census William Walker McCutchen (Walker McKutchen on
      > the census) a Martha Harrison is age 17, born AL. Margaret was born
      > in TN. The only Harrison family in Jackson county that census year
      > was Joel Harrison, born 1798 in SC, probably widowed, age 52,
      > Catherine Harrison, age 25, TN (b. 1825) and Landress Harrison
      > (male) age 21 born TN. I have long felt that Joel is Margaret's
      > father but have zero proof to back it up. I also can't find Joel in
      > 1840 or 1860, neither in Alabama nor in Tennessee. I'm stuck!
      > I wonder if anyone knows of a will or probate records/deeds that
      > would link Joel to Margaret.
      >
      > Martha (Martha Matilda) married James Welborn in Jackson County, 19
      > Jan 1853.
      >
      > Im also looking for the death place of William Walker McCutchen (I
      > have 15 Jul 1878, Alabama only) and where he is buried. Did he
      > really die in Alabama, or did he move to Missouri with several of
      > his children? Maybe some of these questions are ones Charlie already
      > knows the answer to.
      >
      > BTW, my ancestor through William Walker McCutchen and Margaret
      > Harrison is their son Charles Harrison McCutchen who married Nancy
      > Elizabeth Taylor in Dunklin County, Missouri.
      >
    • Janel Woodbury
      I considered this to be him, the Juel Harrison age 65 but there is discrepencies in his birthplace. I realize though that the information on a census could
      Message 2 of 10 , Jul 5 6:54 PM
        I considered this to be him, the Juel Harrison age 65 but there is discrepencies in his birthplace. I realize though that the information on a census could come from anyone. Sarah could be another daughter, or she could be a granddaughter
        Thanks for the land records reference! I'll go take a look.
        Janel

        Clay Gullatt <blackcloud27030@...> wrote:

        Janel

        Try the BLM land records site http//www.glorecords.blm.gov/
        There are two records for Joel Harrison patenting land in Jackson Co.
        1st 11/20/1847 2nd 10/1/1860.

        On the 1860 there is indexed a Juel Harrison 65 AL living in the
        household of J.P. 35 b.AL and Sarah 28 b.TN HAWK. This may be your Joel.

        Clay

        --- In jacksongenealogy@yahoogroups.com, "Janel Woodbury"
        <janel_woodbury@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hi I'm Janel Woodbury. I'm researching the McCutchen and Harrison
        > lines in Jackson/Madison/Morgan/and Marshall Counties, Alabama.
        > I was in touch with Charlie McCutchen awhile back who is a member
        > here and have seen his McCutchen Trace website.
        >
        > I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Harrison. In the 1850
        > Jackson County census William Walker McCutchen (Walker McKutchen on
        > the census) a Martha Harrison is age 17, born AL. Margaret was born
        > in TN. The only Harrison family in Jackson county that census year
        > was Joel Harrison, born 1798 in SC, probably widowed, age 52,
        > Catherine Harrison, age 25, TN (b. 1825) and Landress Harrison
        > (male) age 21 born TN. I have long felt that Joel is Margaret's
        > father but have zero proof to back it up. I also can't find Joel in
        > 1840 or 1860, neither in Alabama nor in Tennessee. I'm stuck!
        > I wonder if anyone knows of a will or probate records/deeds that
        > would link Joel to Margaret.
        >
        > Martha (Martha Matilda) married James Welborn in Jackson County, 19
        > Jan 1853.
        >
        > Im also looking for the death place of William Walker McCutchen (I
        > have 15 Jul 1878, Alabama only) and where he is buried. Did he
        > really die in Alabama, or did he move to Missouri with several of
        > his children? Maybe some of these questions are ones Charlie already
        > knows the answer to.
        >
        > BTW, my ancestor through William Walker McCutchen and Margaret
        > Harrison is their son Charles Harrison McCutchen who married Nancy
        > Elizabeth Taylor in Dunklin County, Missouri.
        >






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      • clay gullatt
        Janel James P. Hawk m. Sarah Jester 09 Mar 1854 JC AL by JOP W. H. Christian OS Page 159. Clay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        Message 3 of 10 , Jul 5 7:39 PM
          Janel

          James P. Hawk m. Sarah Jester 09 Mar 1854 JC AL by JOP W. H. Christian OS Page 159.

          Clay


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        • Janel Woodbury
          Hmmm. Makes you wonder why people are living in the homes of others. Neice and nephew maybe?? I guess I ll never know. I live close to the Salt Lake library so
          Message 4 of 10 , Jul 5 8:43 PM
            Hmmm. Makes you wonder why people are living in the homes of others. Neice and nephew maybe?? I guess I'll never know.
            I live close to the Salt Lake library so the next time I go this is definitely on the top of my list of things to research.
            Janel

            clay gullatt <blackcloud27030@...> wrote:
            Janel

            James P. Hawk m. Sarah Jester 09 Mar 1854 JC AL by JOP W. H. Christian OS Page 159.

            Clay

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          • Terri Billeck
            Janel, I have a Joshua Sexton McCutcheon who married Martha Dean in 1850 Morgan Co. She was born about 1809 and this was her second marriage. I m looking for
            Message 5 of 10 , Jul 5 10:01 PM
              Janel, I have a Joshua Sexton McCutcheon who married
              Martha Dean in 1850 Morgan Co. She was born about
              1809 and this was her second marriage. I'm looking
              for info on his parents.

              I also have a Tammer McCutcheon who married William
              Taylor in 1918 in Morgan Co. My Taylors also lived in
              Jackson Co.

              Terri

              --- Janel Woodbury <janel_woodbury@...> wrote:

              > Hi I'm Janel Woodbury. I'm researching the McCutchen
              > and Harrison
              > lines in Jackson/Madison/Morgan/and Marshall
              > Counties, Alabama.
              > I was in touch with Charlie McCutchen awhile back
              > who is a member
              > here and have seen his McCutchen Trace website.
              >
              > I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Harrison. In
              > the 1850
              > Jackson County census William Walker McCutchen
              > (Walker McKutchen on
              > the census) a Martha Harrison is age 17, born AL.
              > Margaret was born
              > in TN. The only Harrison family in Jackson county
              > that census year
              > was Joel Harrison, born 1798 in SC, probably
              > widowed, age 52,
              > Catherine Harrison, age 25, TN (b. 1825) and
              > Landress Harrison
              > (male) age 21 born TN. I have long felt that Joel is
              > Margaret's
              > father but have zero proof to back it up. I also
              > can't find Joel in
              > 1840 or 1860, neither in Alabama nor in Tennessee.
              > I'm stuck!
              > I wonder if anyone knows of a will or probate
              > records/deeds that
              > would link Joel to Margaret.
              >
              > Martha (Martha Matilda) married James Welborn in
              > Jackson County, 19
              > Jan 1853.
              >
              > Im also looking for the death place of William
              > Walker McCutchen (I
              > have 15 Jul 1878, Alabama only) and where he is
              > buried. Did he
              > really die in Alabama, or did he move to Missouri
              > with several of
              > his children? Maybe some of these questions are ones
              > Charlie already
              > knows the answer to.
              >
              > BTW, my ancestor through William Walker McCutchen
              > and Margaret
              > Harrison is their son Charles Harrison McCutchen who
              > married Nancy
              > Elizabeth Taylor in Dunklin County, Missouri.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              > jacksongenealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >


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            • Janel Woodbury
              I have an older Joshua S. McCutchen listed in my genealogy program. who married in 1827 first to Hannah Leeman and second in 1838 to Jane Lamascus in Morgan
              Message 6 of 10 , Jul 6 5:25 AM
                I have an older Joshua S. McCutchen listed in my genealogy program. who married in 1827 first to Hannah Leeman and second in 1838 to Jane Lamascus in Morgan County. He was born in 1794. He was the son of John McCutchen and Anne Woodall. Not sure if it's the same Joshua or if he married a third time. Don't have a Tammer listed. By 1918 my McCutchens were in Missouri.
                Janel

                Terri Billeck <billeckfamily@...> wrote:
                Janel, I have a Joshua Sexton McCutcheon who married
                Martha Dean in 1850 Morgan Co. She was born about
                1809 and this was her second marriage. I'm looking
                for info on his parents.

                I also have a Tammer McCutcheon who married William
                Taylor in 1918 in Morgan Co. My Taylors also lived in
                Jackson Co.

                Terri

                --- Janel Woodbury <janel_woodbury@...> wrote:

                > Hi I'm Janel Woodbury. I'm researching the McCutchen
                > and Harrison
                > lines in Jackson/Madison/Morgan/and Marshall
                > Counties, Alabama.
                > I was in touch with Charlie McCutchen awhile back
                > who is a member
                > here and have seen his McCutchen Trace website.
                >
                > I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Harrison. In
                > the 1850
                > Jackson County census William Walker McCutchen
                > (Walker McKutchen on
                > the census) a Martha Harrison is age 17, born AL.
                > Margaret was born
                > in TN. The only Harrison family in Jackson county
                > that census year
                > was Joel Harrison, born 1798 in SC, probably
                > widowed, age 52,
                > Catherine Harrison, age 25, TN (b. 1825) and
                > Landress Harrison
                > (male) age 21 born TN. I have long felt that Joel is
                > Margaret's
                > father but have zero proof to back it up. I also
                > can't find Joel in
                > 1840 or 1860, neither in Alabama nor in Tennessee.
                > I'm stuck!
                > I wonder if anyone knows of a will or probate
                > records/deeds that
                > would link Joel to Margaret.
                >
                > Martha (Martha Matilda) married James Welborn in
                > Jackson County, 19
                > Jan 1853.
                >
                > Im also looking for the death place of William
                > Walker McCutchen (I
                > have 15 Jul 1878, Alabama only) and where he is
                > buried. Did he
                > really die in Alabama, or did he move to Missouri
                > with several of
                > his children? Maybe some of these questions are ones
                > Charlie already
                > knows the answer to.
                >
                > BTW, my ancestor through William Walker McCutchen
                > and Margaret
                > Harrison is their son Charles Harrison McCutchen who
                > married Nancy
                > Elizabeth Taylor in Dunklin County, Missouri.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Yahoo! Groups Links
                >
                >
                > jacksongenealogy-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >

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              • Charles McCutchen
                Hi Janel, I m not sure about Joel Harrison but I ll check with Larry to see if he has some info. Most people that did settle Jackson County, AL at that time
                Message 7 of 10 , Jul 6 8:00 AM
                  Hi Janel,

                  I'm not sure about Joel Harrison but I'll check with Larry to see if he has some info. Most people that did settle Jackson County, AL at that time did migrate through East Tennessee around "French Broad River" which is present day Knoxville. We do have a good bit on the Cartothers and some on the Woodalls as well.

                  For those of you who are curious 2 Carothers girls married two of John McCutchen's (1755-1835) boys. Susanna Elizabeth "Betsy" married William Walker McC and Mary Tobitha marrried Joseph Wesley McC. The girls were sisters and dauthers of Hugh Carothers. John's 1st wife and mother of his children was Sarah Ann Woodall.

                  With regards to William Walker McCutchen II (1810-1878). He was raised by his grandfather as the original W.W. died around the time of his birth. We don't know where the original W.W. McC is buried but it is probably unmarked somewhere in Madison County asd he was living there at the time. Larry has a theory that he may have been killed in Tennessee where he may have been settling land disputes for father John.

                  William Walker McCutchen's II children Charles, Louis, George W., and Beulah settled in Campbell, Dunklin County, Missouri. Did you get a change to see the McCutchen Merchatile letterhead from the store they ran?

                  William Walker McCutchen II (1810-1878) drowned while crossing the Tennessee River at Larkin's Landing 15 July 1878. He is buried at McCamy Cemetery which is a very small cemetery in a field as you cross fom Jackson County into Marshall County. Fairly run down and very dificult to find.

                  Here is the article on his drowning:

                  Newspaper: The Progressive Age
                  Date: 18 July 1878

                  The distressing intelligence reached her on Tuesday, that W.W. McCutchen, of Marshall County and a negro boy, were both drowned in (the) Tennessee River on Monday evening, last. The statement is that Mr. McCutchen, Mr. Cowley, Mr. Reed, and a colored man were crossing the river in a bateau which filled with water and sank. Mr. Cowley and Mr. Reed both swam ashore. Continued search has been made for the body of Mr. McCutchen, but at this writing it had not been found. Mr. McCutchen was an old citizen of this county, was a man of high order of intellect, general information, and much beloved for many ennobling qualities. Walker McCutchen had but few equals in intellect and in the qualities of mind and heart that command the respect of acquaintances. We deeply deplore the sorrowful death of such a man and tender his beloved family and kindred our warmest sympathy. Mr. McCutchen must have been seventy years of age, although his appearance did not indicate he was that old.


                  Janel Woodbury <janel_woodbury@...> wrote:
                  Hi I'm Janel Woodbury. I'm researching the McCutchen and Harrison
                  lines in Jackson/Madison/Morgan/and Marshall Counties, Alabama.
                  I was in touch with Charlie McCutchen awhile back who is a member
                  here and have seen his McCutchen Trace website.

                  I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Harrison. In the 1850
                  Jackson County census William Walker McCutchen (Walker McKutchen on
                  the census) a Martha Harrison is age 17, born AL. Margaret was born
                  in TN. The only Harrison family in Jackson county that census year
                  was Joel Harrison, born 1798 in SC, probably widowed, age 52,
                  Catherine Harrison, age 25, TN (b. 1825) and Landress Harrison
                  (male) age 21 born TN. I have long felt that Joel is Margaret's
                  father but have zero proof to back it up. I also can't find Joel in
                  1840 or 1860, neither in Alabama nor in Tennessee. I'm stuck!
                  I wonder if anyone knows of a will or probate records/deeds that
                  would link Joel to Margaret.

                  Martha (Martha Matilda) married James Welborn in Jackson County, 19
                  Jan 1853.

                  Im also looking for the death place of William Walker McCutchen (I
                  have 15 Jul 1878, Alabama only) and where he is buried. Did he
                  really die in Alabama, or did he move to Missouri with several of
                  his children? Maybe some of these questions are ones Charlie already
                  knows the answer to.

                  BTW, my ancestor through William Walker McCutchen and Margaret
                  Harrison is their son Charles Harrison McCutchen who married Nancy
                  Elizabeth Taylor in Dunklin County, Missouri.







                  The McCutchen Trace

                  http://mccutchentrace.com





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                • Janel Woodbury
                  Hi Charlie! I have a lot on the Carothers as well. I think a lot of the research you and Larry have done over the years is a lot of what I have. I m not sure
                  Message 8 of 10 , Jul 7 7:47 AM
                    Hi Charlie!
                    I have a lot on the Carothers as well. I think a lot of the research you and Larry have done over the years is a lot of what I have. I'm not sure that I've seen the letterhead. Is it on your McCutchen Trace site?

                    I knew that William Walker II drowned, but I never knew the story of how. I'll look at your site again to see if there's anything new I don't have.

                    Janel

                    Charles McCutchen <chamac45@...> wrote:
                    Hi Janel,

                    I'm not sure about Joel Harrison but I'll check with Larry to see if he has some info. Most people that did settle Jackson County, AL at that time did migrate through East Tennessee around "French Broad River" which is present day Knoxville. We do have a good bit on the Cartothers and some on the Woodalls as well.

                    For those of you who are curious 2 Carothers girls married two of John McCutchen's (1755-1835) boys. Susanna Elizabeth "Betsy" married William Walker McC and Mary Tobitha marrried Joseph Wesley McC. The girls were sisters and dauthers of Hugh Carothers. John's 1st wife and mother of his children was Sarah Ann Woodall.

                    With regards to William Walker McCutchen II (1810-1878). He was raised by his grandfather as the original W.W. died around the time of his birth. We don't know where the original W.W. McC is buried but it is probably unmarked somewhere in Madison County asd he was living there at the time. Larry has a theory that he may have been killed in Tennessee where he may have been settling land disputes for father John.

                    William Walker McCutchen's II children Charles, Louis, George W., and Beulah settled in Campbell, Dunklin County, Missouri. Did you get a change to see the McCutchen Merchatile letterhead from the store they ran?

                    William Walker McCutchen II (1810-1878) drowned while crossing the Tennessee River at Larkin's Landing 15 July 1878. He is buried at McCamy Cemetery which is a very small cemetery in a field as you cross fom Jackson County into Marshall County. Fairly run down and very dificult to find.

                    Here is the article on his drowning:

                    Newspaper: The Progressive Age
                    Date: 18 July 1878

                    The distressing intelligence reached her on Tuesday, that W.W. McCutchen, of Marshall County and a negro boy, were both drowned in (the) Tennessee River on Monday evening, last. The statement is that Mr. McCutchen, Mr. Cowley, Mr. Reed, and a colored man were crossing the river in a bateau which filled with water and sank. Mr. Cowley and Mr. Reed both swam ashore. Continued search has been made for the body of Mr. McCutchen, but at this writing it had not been found. Mr. McCutchen was an old citizen of this county, was a man of high order of intellect, general information, and much beloved for many ennobling qualities. Walker McCutchen had but few equals in intellect and in the qualities of mind and heart that command the respect of acquaintances. We deeply deplore the sorrowful death of such a man and tender his beloved family and kindred our warmest sympathy. Mr. McCutchen must have been seventy years of age, although his appearance did not indicate he was that old.


                    Janel Woodbury <janel_woodbury@...> wrote:
                    Hi I'm Janel Woodbury. I'm researching the McCutchen and Harrison
                    lines in Jackson/Madison/Morgan/and Marshall Counties, Alabama.
                    I was in touch with Charlie McCutchen awhile back who is a member
                    here and have seen his McCutchen Trace website.

                    I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Harrison. In the 1850
                    Jackson County census William Walker McCutchen (Walker McKutchen on
                    the census) a Martha Harrison is age 17, born AL. Margaret was born
                    in TN. The only Harrison family in Jackson county that census year
                    was Joel Harrison, born 1798 in SC, probably widowed, age 52,
                    Catherine Harrison, age 25, TN (b. 1825) and Landress Harrison
                    (male) age 21 born TN. I have long felt that Joel is Margaret's
                    father but have zero proof to back it up. I also can't find Joel in
                    1840 or 1860, neither in Alabama nor in Tennessee. I'm stuck!
                    I wonder if anyone knows of a will or probate records/deeds that
                    would link Joel to Margaret.

                    Martha (Martha Matilda) married James Welborn in Jackson County, 19
                    Jan 1853.

                    Im also looking for the death place of William Walker McCutchen (I
                    have 15 Jul 1878, Alabama only) and where he is buried. Did he
                    really die in Alabama, or did he move to Missouri with several of
                    his children? Maybe some of these questions are ones Charlie already
                    knows the answer to.

                    BTW, my ancestor through William Walker McCutchen and Margaret
                    Harrison is their son Charles Harrison McCutchen who married Nancy
                    Elizabeth Taylor in Dunklin County, Missouri.

                    The McCutchen Trace

                    http://mccutchentrace.com


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