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  • Redzbarn@excite.com
    Richard: Much impressed with your comments inre the early settlers of Jackson Co. I have been advised by several others that no one knows more about
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 6, 2003
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      Richard:
      Much impressed with your comments inre the early settlers of Jackson Co. I have been advised by several others that no one knows more about generations of people who have lived or are living in the area. So I turn to you to ask for help with getting back through my "brick wall" I have not been able to discover anything concerning the ancestry of the Lucinda Dents etal listed in the 1850 Census of Dist. 19, Jackson Co. The "cousins" on the Dent List have provided reams of data on the Maryland, Virginia and NC Dent families but none appear to hook up with my Dents who must have migrated to Alabama through Georgia before settling in So. IL in the 1850-60 decade. Once in IL they produced prominent educators, medical doctors, lawyers and judges , a fact that would indicate they must have developed out of a fairly good gene pool.
      I shall be most appreciative of your good efforts on my behalf and willing to remunerate you for any reasonable expense incurred.
      Earl Redzbarn@...




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      Date: 5 Aug 2003 16:53:10 -0000
      Subject: [jacksongenealogy] Digest Number 663

      ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--><br>Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark<br>Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511<br>http://us.click.yahoo.com/sO0ANB/LIdGAA/ySSFAA/FvNolB/TM<br>---------------------------------------------------------------------~-><br><br>There are 2 messages in this issue.<br><br>Topics in this digest:<br><br> 1. RE: Digest Number 653<br> From: "Richard Matthews" <prm@...><br> 2. Re: Digest Number 653<br> From: MaryTom482@...<br><br><br>________________________________________________________________________<br>________________________________________________________________________<br><br>Message: 1<br> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:38:07 -0500<br> From: "Richard Matthews" <prm@...><br>Subject: RE: Digest Number 653<br><br><br>There are no simple answers that co
      ver all the early settlers, so we speak<br>and write about them in general terms. We can hardly imaging what this area<br>was like 200 years ago when the first squatters moved into Cherokee<br>territory around here. From letters that were written by some of my long ago<br>kin I've found that their hardships were great even 100 or so years after<br>those first settlers. I've found that this area was so ravaged by the WBTS<br>that hardly anything was left after the war. I know from my own parents,<br>that living conditions were not very good for them up through the first<br>quarter of the 20th century. Most of my Jackson County kin for the past six<br>generations have been farmers. One thing I learned from my Grandparents is<br>that in times passed the farm families were pretty much self sufficient.<br>They could live with what was grown/made by them or their neighbors.<br>Certainly they had to buy some things from others but their lives were no<br>comparison to our life style
      s. And it is sad to say they still suffered<br>greatly from poor medical care and diseases.<br><br><br>Richard<br><br><br><br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br>This is the answer to the nagging question: Where did they come from? How<br>did they get here? Why did they come? What was here when they arrived?<br>Certainly an entertaining answer to an entertaining question?<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Laura Frazier Golden<br><br><br><br>________________________________________________________________________<br>________________________________________________________________________<br><br>Message: 2<br> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 23:03:38 EDT<br> From: MaryTom482@...<br>Subject: Re: Digest Number 653<br><br>Thank you so much for such valuable information. I loved reading every <br>word...<br>Mary Willis Drew<br><br><br>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br><br><br><br>______________________________
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    • Redzbarn@excite.com
      Richard: Much impressed with your comments inre the early settlers of Jackson Co. I have been advised by several others that no one knows more about
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        Richard:
        Much impressed with your comments inre the early settlers of Jackson Co. I have been advised by several others that no one knows more about generations of people who have lived or are living in the area. So I turn to you to ask for help with getting back through my "brick wall" I have not been able to discover anything concerning the ancestry of the Lucinda Dents etal listed in the 1850 Census of Dist. 19, Jackson Co. The "cousins" on the Dent List have provided reams of data on the Maryland, Virginia and NC Dent families but none appear to hook up with my Dents who must have migrated to Alabama through Georgia before settling in So. IL in the 1850-60 decade. Once in IL they produced prominent educators, medical doctors, lawyers and judges , a fact that would indicate they must have developed out of a fairly good gene pool.
        I shall be most appreciative of your good efforts on my behalf and willing to remunerate you for any reasonable expense incurred.
        Earl Redzbarn@...




        --- On Tue 08/05, < jacksongenealogy@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
        From: [mailto: jacksongenealogy@yahoogroups.com]
        To: jacksongenealogy@yahoogroups.com
        Date: 5 Aug 2003 16:53:10 -0000
        Subject: [jacksongenealogy] Digest Number 663

        ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--><br>Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark<br>Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511<br>http://us.click.yahoo.com/sO0ANB/LIdGAA/ySSFAA/FvNolB/TM<br>---------------------------------------------------------------------~-><br><br>There are 2 messages in this issue.<br><br>Topics in this digest:<br><br> 1. RE: Digest Number 653<br> From: "Richard Matthews" <prm@...><br> 2. Re: Digest Number 653<br> From: MaryTom482@...<br><br><br>________________________________________________________________________<br>________________________________________________________________________<br><br>Message: 1<br> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:38:07 -0500<br> From: "Richard Matthews" <prm@...><br>Subject: RE: Digest Number 653<br><br><br>There are no simple answers that co
        ver all the early settlers, so we speak<br>and write about them in general terms. We can hardly imaging what this area<br>was like 200 years ago when the first squatters moved into Cherokee<br>territory around here. From letters that were written by some of my long ago<br>kin I've found that their hardships were great even 100 or so years after<br>those first settlers. I've found that this area was so ravaged by the WBTS<br>that hardly anything was left after the war. I know from my own parents,<br>that living conditions were not very good for them up through the first<br>quarter of the 20th century. Most of my Jackson County kin for the past six<br>generations have been farmers. One thing I learned from my Grandparents is<br>that in times passed the farm families were pretty much self sufficient.<br>They could live with what was grown/made by them or their neighbors.<br>Certainly they had to buy some things from others but their lives were no<br>comparison to our life style
        s. And it is sad to say they still suffered<br>greatly from poor medical care and diseases.<br><br><br>Richard<br><br><br><br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br>This is the answer to the nagging question: Where did they come from? How<br>did they get here? Why did they come? What was here when they arrived?<br>Certainly an entertaining answer to an entertaining question?<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Laura Frazier Golden<br><br><br><br>________________________________________________________________________<br>________________________________________________________________________<br><br>Message: 2<br> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 23:03:38 EDT<br> From: MaryTom482@...<br>Subject: Re: Digest Number 653<br><br>Thank you so much for such valuable information. I loved reading every <br>word...<br>Mary Willis Drew<br><br><br>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br><br><br><br>______________________________
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      • Richard Matthews
        Thanks for your compliment Earl, but let me assure you that many people in our area know much more about the former inhabitants of Jackson County than I do.
        Message 3 of 3 , Aug 7, 2003
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          Thanks for your compliment Earl, but let me assure you that many people in
          our area know much more about the former inhabitants of Jackson County than
          I do. What I know I have learned in trying to solve my own brick wall,
          Walker Mathis, b. 1789 Ga m. Luvina Isbell. By following birth places and
          birth dates and relating that information to historical time lines and
          migration patterns I have learned some about why and when our ancestors did
          what they did, but there are so many exceptions to those rules that to try
          to place a specific individual into known trends is many times misleading.

          In a prior post you stated that Lucinda was listed as being 57 or 37 years
          old on the 1850 census. Since she had a 26 years old son, Thomas listed, one
          would assume she was 57 at that time meaning she was born 1793, possibly in
          Georgia. If one looks back at a 1793 Georgia map, one will find that almost
          all of the white settlement was around Savannah and near the Savannah River
          north and east of the City of Savannah. So there is a good possibly your
          Lucinda was born in that area. But since you do not know her maiden name,
          that is probably a dead end. Being a widow, she was listed as head of the
          household, you need to find the given name of her husband. Since the first
          sons name was Thomas, it is a good bet his Fathers name was also Thomas. At
          least that might give you a good starting point. Try doing a google search
          for "Thomas Dent, Lucinda Dent". Many online listing will pop up, maybe one
          of them will give you some information you need.

          I do find that the Dents were late comers to our area. There is not a single
          land grant to a Dent in our county records. For that matter, they seem to
          not be wide spread at all in the US even in the mid 1800's. This
          information is available at http://www.hamrick.com/names/. This may make
          your search a bit easier than a sir name that is overly common. Immigration
          records of the Dent name could be a help.

          I would like to make one other point. As good as the Internet is, about
          helping with genealogy, it is still necessary to dig into library and
          government records to solve the tough genealogy questions. Many, many files
          have not yet been put on line. Also some of the online information cannot be
          trusted to be accurate and written records should be found to verify some of
          that information.

          Good luck with your search, I'm sorry to say I cannot help you much, other
          than the few suggestions I have given. I still have too many brick walls of
          my own to try to solve.

          Bests,

          Richard

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          From: Redzbarn@... [mailto:Redzbarn@...]
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          Richard:

          Much impressed with your comments inre the early settlers of Jackson Co. I
          have been advised by several others that no one knows more about generations
          of people who have lived or are living in the area. So I turn to you to ask
          for help with getting back through my "brick wall" I have not been able to
          discover anything concerning the ancestry of the Lucinda Dents etal listed
          in the 1850 Census of Dist. 19, Jackson Co. The "cousins" on the Dent List
          have provided reams of data on the Maryland, Virginia and NC Dent families
          but none appear to hook up with my Dents who must have migrated to Alabama
          through Georgia before settling in So. IL in the 1850-60 decade. Once in IL
          they produced prominent educators, medical doctors, lawyers and judges , a
          fact that would indicate they must have developed out of a fairly good gene
          pool.

          I shall be most appreciative of your good efforts on my behalf and willing
          to remunerate you for any reasonable expense incurred.

          Earl Redzbarn@...










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