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507Re: [j4x-owners-group] bunks and storage and water under stove and nav table

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  • William Stellin
    Dec 5, 2011
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      You should prevent all water from coming in through the rudder post. A few drips from the prop shaft is normal but none from the rudder post. Fixing it depends on the type. If it has a large plastic ring mounted on the inside bottom and around it with bolts spaced all the way around the ring, you merely tighten them equally. If you overtighten them the steering will be stiff. Just tighten them until the steering begins to feel a little more resistance. I am only familiar with the old system. I don't know if it changed. If it is the system I describe and tightening the bolts doesn't stop the water, then you have to separate the two halves and replace the flax. I think the flax rope is 3/8 inch and square in it's profile. 

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      On Dec 5, 2011, at 5:51 PM, shearwater@... wrote:



      I experienced the water under the nav station recently on a delivery to Antigua. It went away when we were upright and after we cleared a clogged lubber hole just forward of the sinks in the galley. I also noticed some water (a cup or two) sloshing around in the rudder box above the lower bearing with a strong following sea. Do I need to tighten the rudder tube stuffing, or is a couple of cups normal? If I need to tighten the rudder tube stuffing, how do I do that?


      Shane Creamer
      J 42 #30

      From: "William Stellin" <wstellin@...>
      To: j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com
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      Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 5:33:04 PM
      Subject: Re: [j4x-owners-group] bunks and storage and water under stove and nav table


      Re water. Because the bottom is quite flat water runs easily up the insides when heeling. Most likely cause is the rudder tube stuffing. If you have the kind of stuffing with flax cord, you can tighten it and that should stop the leak. The stuffing box is higher than the middle of the boats bottom( keel area) so the water runs down to the bilge and when heeled doesn't even get to the bilge. Instead it runs alongside and comes out wherever it can. Pitching of the boat let's slosh back and forth. When the boat is upright it drains into the bilge sump and is pumped out. Unfortunately on long passages where you might be heeled severely for hours, the water seldom drains into the sump. Get it fixed quick because salt water sloshing inside the boat will ruin everything it touches especially the fuel tanks which are made of aluminum and electrical wires like around the fresh water pump. 
      Bill Stellin.   Jaywalker. #6

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      On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:05 AM, "tony@..." <tony@...> wrote:


      I'm looking to add some storage and gain an additional bunk for offshore passages.

      THe idea i'm executing for storage is to add a 4 to 6" extension to the port shelf in the V Berth and attaching zippered enclosures, Also I plan to add add some enclosures on the Starboard side shelf without the extension. Curious if anyone has done something different to add storage.

      It seems I'm one bunk short offshore. Has anyone added a bunk either to the main salon or in the aft cabin? If so do you have pictures or tips?

      Lastly sailing up wind in a moderate to heavy sea i get sea water under the cabin sole. When healing it goes under the Nav Table drawers or under the oven. Someties it even ocmes above the floor in the Nav station. Anyone have a good idea of where this water is coming from or how to stop it? I've closed the sink sea cocks. Maybe there are some leaks along the rail, but the volume seems too great for that.

      Tony Iacono Affinity #26

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