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  • dc1reg
    Jun 14, 2011
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      Not to complicate things, but I had this problem when the boat was fairly new (year or two) so I'm figuring it was not some kind of deposit, just bad luck. And it hasn't recurred in 8 years. I cleared it without taking anything apart, going in the water.
      Dick Greene
      J42 MaineSail
      #48

      --- In j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com, Con & Deb Deeter <cdsail@...> wrote:
      >
      > bill,
      >
      > thanks again... i have a slightly different connection to the thru hull... the
      > bottom of the tee is connected to the thru hull and the glue that was used to
      > hold the plastic connections between the tee and the hose is not going to give
      > up.  this is going to be an either/or plan.  Cut the hose above the tee and hope
      > to clean out there or take the boat out of the water and correct the problem.  
      > Neither are fun especially this time of year.    you may be right on the "hold
      > it" option going forward... what are heads for?
      >
      >
      > Conrad
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: William Stellin <wstellin@...>
      > To: "j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com" <j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com>
      > Cc: "j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com" <j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 4:09:36 PM
      > Subject: Re: [j4x-owners-group] head plug
      >
      >  
      > It can be done in the water with no trouble. Close the sea cock and cut the tee
      > not the hose. The plastic or nylon that the tee is made of seem to attract
      > calcium which has probably shut down it's diameter to about 1/4 inch. It will be
      > very hard to replace the heavy black hose in such a tight space. Better to not
      > disturb it. The hose ends are already formed to the tee. It is a bear to force
      > new hose on. Plus there is less chance of messing up the sea cock if you leave
      > the hose on it. Your pee mixed with salt water forms a rock like stone which is
      > the problem. Always pump at least twenty times with each flush or do as I do and
      > pee in the sink (yuk) and rinse with fresh water. After you are finished with
      > this job you may even prefer to just hold it. 
      > Bill
      >
      > Sent from my iPod
      >
      > On Jun 13, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Con & Deb Deeter <cdsail@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      >  
      > >Sounds complete but a little dangerous in the water.  When you say "rock" are
      > >you referring to barnacles or calcium deposit or just head deposits.  Since it
      > >is really hard to get any leverage in that space I am planning to cut the hose
      > >just above the top side of the tee and then work the remaining hose off the
      > >tee.  Once off, clean the inside of the tee and then replace the hose (approx.
      > >6'). 
      > >
      > >
      > >However, your thought is that the inside diameter of the tee has been closed
      > >over time and is now plugged and needs replacing.  that is a, i think, out of
      > >the water job especially so close to the thru hull...
      > >
      > >
      > >Thanks again for the advice and insight...
      > >
      > >conrad
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > ________________________________
      > From: William Stellin <wstellin@...>
      > >To: "j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com" <j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com>
      > >Cc: "j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com" <j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com>
      > >Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 12:47:56 PM
      > >Subject: Re: [j4x-owners-group] head plug
      > >
      > > 
      > >If you can, remove the Tee and clean or replace. The hose can be cleared but not
      > >the Tee
      > >If you can't get the hoses off, cut the Tee in half or thirds without cutting
      > >the hose. All the buildup of rock is probably in the plastic tee. You can pry it
      > >loose from the hose only after cutting the tee into pieces. Don't try acid as it
      > >is way too dangerous. Just replace the tee and any elbows that are below the
      > >water line. The seacock should be fine and easy to clean once you remove the
      > >hose. Squeezing and flexing the hose will dislodge the calcium but the hose must
      > >have an open or free end so the stuff can fall out. It will never go throuh tees
      > >or elbows even if they are clean. 
      > >Bill Stellin.  Jaywalker
      > >
      > >Sent from my iPod
      > >
      > >On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Thuss <Robert.Thuss@...> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > 
      > >>That is absolutely the worst fix-it job on the boat. Drain-o won’t help and if
      > >>you can’t dig out the clogged paper from underneath, then you will have to
      > >>disconnect or cut the hose pipe. Beware that it may be under pressure from the
      > >>head. Safety glasses, a paint suit, rubber gloves and lots of paper towels will
      > >>be necessary! Robert (Jade USA 50777)
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>From:j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com]
      > >>On Behalf Of cdsail@...
      > >>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:29 AM
      > >>To: j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com
      > >>Subject: [j4x-owners-group] head plug
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>the aft head is seemingly plugged at the tee. I have worked from all sides but
      > >>it looks like it is at the tee that goes either to the holding tank or to the
      > >>thru hull when pumbing overboard. I have tried to push a snake from the vented
      > >>loop through the tee but it just will not turn the corner.
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>I hate to cut the hose above the tee but it looks like the only choice. Has
      > >>anyone used drain-no and got results or some other option?
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>Headed toward destruction soon...
      > >>Conrad
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