923Re: [J28Sailors] Summer Report
- Sep 20, 2013i just got back from a late afternoon-early evening sail aboard my J/28 Windy on the Chesapeake Bay, sailing out of Galesville on the West River in Maryland. we had a steady 10-12kts out of the south and it was phenomenal - we were dialing it in at 6.8kts up wind and cracking off to 60-70 degrees reaching in flat seas. we were in the 7s.(on GPS) and passing every boat around us with max of 7.5kts on a reach. tell me about another production 28 footer that can match that! that said, i have a little bit of extra roach in the main (about 25 sq ft at the top) and clean bottom - that makes a huge difference in how she sails. loving my J right now as we all should.
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Subject: RE: [J28Sailors] Summer Report
I lived aboard my J/28 in 2001 during Summer delivery from Maine to the Chesapeake which included a month’s stay in Newport, and then again during delivery from Annapolis to Key West in Spring-Summer 2003. that trip took 30 days (22 on the water) and I spent an additional two months living aboard in the Navy marina at Boca Chica. I had a max crew of 3 during the deliveries but was solo in port. fortunately, I had installed AC (Mermaid 6500 BTU unit under the V-berth - fits nicely, cools (and heats) the boat quickly and the extra weight up forward helps downwind performance) for the trip down south and was able to withstand the insects and tropical heat pretty comfortably (also had a tarp that covered most of the boat). without AC, it would have been a little bit hard to take although there were other live-aboards in Key West who were able to do it without AC but not my preference.best,marcSent from Windows MailHello All,Yes, I am back and thanks, John, for the welcome. There has been a lot of discussion this year about whether or not one can survive for extended periods of time on a J28 and also on the merits of shoal draft vs fin keel. So, I am reporting on my experience living on and racing my shoal draft J28 this past summer.I lived on my boat up on Lake ontario from mid June until the middle of August (spending only one night not on the boat) and found it perfectly satisfactory. Very comfortable and accommodating. During regattas I had crew also living on the boat and that worked fine as well. Most evenings i was moored or anchored. So, I am now testament to the fact that one can live comfortably for extended periods of time on a J28.
I am also pleased to report that the shoal draft model performs just as well as the fin keel version.
I raced against a fin keel J28 at the EYC regatta in Canada and we beat him handily in the long distance race (25 miles) coming in 3rd in our division of 11 boats ranging from 22' to 38' but only the one other J28. In the course racing (5 races over two days) the fin keel J28 edged us out and got a 2nd while we got a 3rd - an Abbot 36 took 1st. We were pretty much dead even with the fin keel J28 upwind but he was a little faster off the wind. He had a new 155 genoa and whisker pole while we had a 149 nearly new genoa and no pole. Bottom line, the shoal draft is totally competitive with the fin keel. I am pleased.
I crossed the lake (Ontario) one day in steady 25 knots gusting to 35 and a couple of times higher, 8 foot seas and occasional thunder squalls and the boat handled beautifully. I put a single reef in the main and used the 149% Kevlar genoa.
Finally, I placed first in a Hospice regatta which also had 11 boats but no J's. I raced in white sail division, by the way. So, the boat goes and all that talk on our web site about the shoal draft version not being up to snuff, I say phooey! My PHRF rating, by the way turned out to be only 3 seconds behind the fin keel j28. I felt there should have been more separation when I was given that rating, but after racing, I think it is more than fair.
I am already planning to sail the boat from Lake Ontario to St Pete, Florida next season where I hope to keep her year 'round in the future. I have attached a picture taken by a friend in another boat as I was passing by this past summer.
Nice looking sails, don't you think?
Dave Hastings, "Headroom"
On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:38 AM, John Power <sailingmaster@...> wrote:I'm getting a max prop as soon as I can afford the price!Then again why use an engine when u have perfectly good sails!Nice to see u have resurfaced David!JP
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On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:06 AM, David Hastings <david.hastings@...> wrote:Hi Steve. Welcome aboard. I had the Martec and then the Gori in my J29. The Gori was vastly superior to the Martec. Now I have a J28 with a Max Prop. In my book the Max Prop is superior to the others. Offers more punch, stops better, backs better and is vibration free.
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On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:42 AM, "mcclurejsteven" <mcclurejsteven@...> wrote:I would like to get a quote on some of the props you mentioned. I looked in the ownwer's manual on this site, but where can you find the gear ratio, shaft size and rotation info requested on the quote form?
--- In J28Sailors@yahoogroups.com, sailingmaster@... wrote:
> I HAVE A MARTEC ON MY BOAT NOW, I WISH I HAD SAVED A LITTLE LONGER
> AND BOUGHT A VARIFOLD, MAX PROP OR GORI... THE MARTEC VIBRATES A BIT
> BUT OTHEWISE ITS PRETTY GOOD.
> I ORIGINALLY TRIED TO SAVE A FEW BUCKS AND BOUGHT A MARTEC 16X14 OFF
> OF EBAY. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PROP THAT JBOAT/TPI PUT ON THE BOAT AND
> ITS A BIT OVERPROPED BUT STILL GOOD.
> THE REASON WHY I WENT NEW IS THAT THIS PROP NEEDS TO BE BALANCED.
> I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME OF MY MONEY BACK AND WOULD SELL IT FAIRLY
> CHEAP IF YOU JUST WANTED A PROP TO GET YOU BY FOR A SEASON OR TWO. I
> COULD HAVE MY MARINA GET IT BALANCED AND SHIP IT OUT IN AWEEK IF YOU
> ARE INTERSTED. I ALSO HAVE AN OLDER 3 BLADE PROP THAT CAME WITH MY
> BOAT (FIXED) ITS A BIT MUCH, BUT AGAIN YOU COULD GET BY WITH IT IN A
> PINCH. I WILL GIVE YOU THE THREE BLADE IF YOU WANT TO BUY MY MARTEC.
> YOU CAN EMAIL ME DIRECTLY AT SAILINGMASTER@...
> GLAD TO HEAR YOU HAVE A 28, WELCOME TO THE CULT! YOU WILL LOVE THE
> On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:08 PM, wymanfrank wrote:
> > My newly acquired J28, hull #8, arrives in Charleston tonight! I've
> > got a bit of work before refloating. Survey says fixed 2 blade prop
> > is shot and needs replacing. I'd really like a nice folding
> > (probably 3 blade max Prop) but my boat kitty is now really low and
> > I'm pretty certain this is where I can cut a grand or more. I've
> > decided to put off the purchase of a nice folding prop for a year or
> > so and go with a inexpensive fixed prop for now. Any advice on makes/
> > models that are inexpensive (relative to folding)? 2 or 3 blade?
> > Thanks!
> > Frank
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