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RE: [infoguys-list] Re: Training VS Gifted?

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  • Seymour Dupa
    The other way of saying it is, What would you do if you didn t have to work for a living? ...
    Message 1 of 5 , Jul 8, 2005
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      The other way of saying it is,
      "What would you do if you didn't have to work for a
      living?"

      --- Paul Curtis <pncurtis@...> wrote:

      > The question I often ask is this, "If you could do
      > anything you wanted to do
      > without regard to obligations, resources, geography
      > or any other external
      > force, what would you be doing?" It is one of the
      > ways I use to determine
      > what people are passionate about.
      >
      >
      >
      > The follow on question is simply, "Why?"
      >
      >
      >
      > Another thing that seems to work well is to leave
      > them sitting in a lobby or
      > ante room for a few minutes before the interview and
      > then at some point in
      > the interview explain that you need to determine how
      > observant they are.
      > Ask them to list for you the things they saw while
      > waiting to be
      > interviewed. By the way, you better know the
      > answers before you ask the
      > questions. If they use the search technique for
      > identifying things they saw
      > in the room they are way ahead of the game. If they
      > claim experience as an
      > investigator and don't use a method for recalling
      > what they saw you probably
      > have your answer. If they have no experience they
      > still need to bring
      > powers of observation and recollection with them to
      > the job though their
      > responses will probably not be as well organized as
      > they would be with an
      > experienced investigator.
      >
      >
      >
      > If you are given a penny for your thoughts but have
      > to put your two cents
      > in, who gets the other penny? :-)
      >
      >
      >
      > Paul Curtis
      >
      > Costa Mesa, CA
      >
      >
      >
      > _____
      >
      > From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com]
      > On Behalf Of jimlyonsncis
      > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 09:49
      > To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [infoguys-list] Re: Training VS Gifted?
      >
      >
      >
      > In my experience in life and in training for private
      > investigators, I
      > think the key is this job requires a great deal of
      > situational
      > awareness and instinct that some people either just
      > don't have or
      > just haven't used yet.
      >
      > Situational awareness is knowing what's going on all
      > around you, like
      > knowing if one of the six cars in your line of sight
      > can be used to
      > your advantage. Instinct is picking up on subtle
      > nuances, like an
      > incremental slowdown in a moving vehicle, either
      > conciously or
      > subconciously, and knowing that it's a stimulus that
      > requires a
      > response.
      >
      > Most people I know dont' have the situational
      > awareness to do the job
      > well, but some may be trainable. Using mobile
      > surveillance as an
      > example, some people are just really crappy drivers
      > no matter how
      > hard they try and aren't fit to conduct mobile
      > surveillance.
      >
      > A lot of people I know don't have a great deal of
      > natural or trained
      > instinct, either, which is a two-fold issue. Good
      > investigators
      > possess and refine a sense of instinct, but others
      > have no
      > instinctive abilities to refine, and some people may
      > have good
      > instincts but are self-destructive and fight their
      > instinctual inputs.
      >
      > When it comes to trainees, I ask a few specific
      > questions to get a
      > feel for their situational awareness and instinctive
      > abilities:
      >
      > 1: Does your spouse find it irritating that you can
      > recall an event
      > or conversation very specifically days, weeks or
      > even months
      > afterwards? (Every good investigator I know says
      > this is a real
      > problem.)
      >
      > 2: Have you ever noticed something significant, like
      > a dangerous
      > situation developing, well before other people
      > around you? (This is a
      > must.)
      >
      > 3: How many traffic accidents have you had and how
      > many have you
      > avoided? Describe the situations. (Not all traffic
      > accidents can be
      > avoided, but I've never known a good investigator
      > who had been at
      > fault in an accident except related to an aggressive
      > surveillance.)
      >
      > 4: Do you believe in stereotypes of people, that you
      > can tell a lot
      > about a person by their facial appearance, clothing,
      > posture, manner
      > of speech, etc? Yes or no, explain it. (If they say
      > yes, it means
      > they are a student of human nature, because to be a
      > student means to
      > categorize and analyze.)
      >
      > There are many other questions and I think there are
      > a few key ones
      > that I have used before that I can't recall. It
      > would be interesting
      > to hear what others use when feeling out a potential
      > investigator.
      >
      > (By the way, these questions also require excellent
      > verbal skills to
      > respond to. Another good test.)
      >
      > I apply these same questions to everyone, including
      > former LEOs. This
      > is the line I always draw when talking about the
      > ex-LEO PI issue,
      > that some people, even former law enforcement
      > officers, just dont'
      > have the ability to be good private investigators,
      > even if they can
      > easily obtain a license.
      >
      > Don't know if I want to open that can of worms, but
      > it's always worth
      > a poke.
      >
      > You are right: A heightened sense of situational
      > awareness and
      > instinct is required, and some people have it
      > naturally and hone
      > their skills with experience, and some people can be
      > trained. But
      > many people just will never be able to do this job
      > because they lack
      > these basic skills.
      >
      > Jim Lyons
      > Superior Research Services
      > Marquette, MI
      >
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