RE: [infoguys-list] Prepaid Legal Services
- Please, everyone do me one favor. Please just go to my website and look at
the flash presentation, or the html pages describing the plans. I
completely understand why you would say this, John, and I said the same
thing. Because I had a friend whom I trust and who sincerely wanted me to
look into PPL, I finally caved and checked it out. When I did I realized
that as a PI I would be nuts not to offer this as an additional service to
my clients. The thing is, John, that you haven't seen the description of
the product, so you're operating on what you guess is in the plan, or what
you've heard on the rumor line.
Actually, this question of legal specialty is one of our big selling points.
Many people say "Oh, I have a friend/client/relative who's an attorney, I
don't need PPL." The standard comeback is "Really? And what is her
specialty? And where does she practice? Personal Injury, you say? In Los
Angeles? And how much help will she be when you need a Will drawn, or
advice on a contract, Probate matter, or family law matter? What if you go
on vacation to Florida and have an accident, or get a traffic ticket? Can
she help you then?"
With PPL you get to consult with a specialist in whatever area of law you
need, in any state in the US, and most of Canada. If they don't have what
you need, which they usually do, or if their conflict check shows they need
to pass on your case, they will hire outside counsel to handle it. One of
my PI Associates had a matter that required an unusual specialist, I don't
recall now what it was. They found her someone she was very pleased with.
I called and got an attorney in TN who specialized in property issues when
my Dad had a neighbor's tree falling on his house. When I had a CA client's
ex abscond to FL with her new car, I had FOUR attorneys advise me, a pair in
FL & a pair in CA, one each on the divorce/property issues and one each on
the repo angle. Actually my direct client was an attorney, and he was most
impressed when I informed him that I understood that his responsibility was
to his client, not me, and I wished to consult my own attorneys before
proceeding. When he found out I have a TEAM, he offered me all his work.
Understand, I only had the $17 a month plan at the time. The consultations
cost me nothing beyond that.
Btw, as I'm typing this on a Sunday, I just got a call from another PI
Associate who has the membership. He's in trouble, and didn't have his law
firm's number. He also has the Legal Shield rider on his plan. He can call
an 800 number 24/7 and get a real, live attorney on the phone within a few
minutes. That attorney will advise him, talk to any cops on the scene, do
whatever they can to defuse the situation and keep him out of jail or
danger. In our line of work, this sort of situation is a very real
possibility. Of course for the 24/7 service he's paying a premium
price...$1 a month.
But back to legal specialties. As an example, here in CA our provider law
firm is Parker Stanbury. From Martindale.com:
Statement of Practice:
General Civil, Trial and Appellate Practice in all State and Federal Courts.
Insurance Law, Products Liability, Governmental Liability, Construction
Accidents, Construction Defects; Land Subsidence, Toxic Torts, Wrongful
Termination; Professional Malpractice, Coverage, Bad Faith, Transportation
Law, Uninsured Motorist, First Party Claims, Vehicular Liability,
Corporation, Family and Criminal Law, Workers' Compensation, Business
Litigation, Real Estate, Employment Law, Immigration, Consumer Law,
Bankruptcy and Governmental Benefits.
Year Established: 1927
Parker · Stanbury LLP has been providing legal services for the insurance
industry and business community of Southern California for over 70 years.
The firm was founded in 1927 when Harry Parker began practicing law in the
casualty defense field. In the years that followed, he was joined by such
outstanding scholars and advocates as Ray Stanbury and White McGee, Jr.
Today with offices in Los Angeles, Santa Ana, San Bernardino, San Diego and
Sacramento we proudly continue that tradition of service.
All human and material resources of the firm are directed toward the goals
of providing the highest quality of legal service at the most reasonable
cost. In pursuit of these goals, we utilize the latest technology, including
a 24-hour paging system, to respond immediately to our clients' needs.
Firm Size: 82
Other Office Addresses: Links to Other Offices
Other offices at: Santa Ana, San Bernardino, San Diego and Sacramento,
MEMBERS OF FIRM
Douglass H. Mori, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, October 13, 1951;
admitted to bar, 1978, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
Districts of California. Education: Pomona College (B.A., 1973); Occidental
College; Vanderbilt University (J.D., 1976). Member: Los Angeles County Bar
Association; State Bar of California; Association of Southern California
Defense Counsel; Japanese-American Bar Association. Practice Areas: Personal
Injury Defense; Construction Defects; Civil Litigation; Trucking Law; Trial
Practice. AV Peer Review Rated
John D. Barrett, Jr., (Member) born Ossining, New York, February 7, 1951;
admitted to bar, 1976, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
Districts of California. Education: Loyola University of Los Angeles (B.A.,
1973); Southwestern University (J.D., 1976). Judge Pro Tem: Los Angeles
Municipal Court, 1984—; Los Angeles Superior Court, 1988—. Member, Panel of
Arbitrators; Los Angeles County Bar Association Fee Dispute Resolution
Services, Contractors State Licensing Board, American Arbitration
Association, Los Angeles Superior Court. Member: Los Angeles County (Member,
Litigation Section) Bar Association; State Bar of California; Association of
Southern California Defense Counsel; American Board of Trial Advocates.
Certified, Civil Trial Advocate, National Board of Trial Advocacy.. Practice
Areas: Personal Injury Defense; Trial Practice; Civil Litigation; Criminal
Robert W. LoPresti, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, October 4, 1951;
admitted to bar, 1976, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
Districts of California. Education: California State University at
Northridge (B.S., 1973); Southwestern University (J.D., 1976). Member: Los
Angeles County Bar Association; State Bar of California; Association of
Southern California Defense Counsel; American Board of Trial Advocates;
Federation of Defense and Corproate Counsel. (Also at Phoenix, Arizona,
Sacramento and Santa Ana Offices). Practice Areas: Personal Injury Defense;
Construction Defects; Civil Litigation; Trial Practice. AV Peer Review Rated
Ronald L. Smith, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, March 2, 1954;
admitted to bar, 1980, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
Districts of California. Education: University of California at Los Angeles
(B.A., 1976); Southwestern University (J.D., 1980). Member: Los Angeles
County Bar Association; State Bar of California; Association of Southern
California Defense Counsel; American Prepaid Legal Services Institute.
Practice Areas: Construction Defects; Toxic Tort Defense; Civil Litigation.
Graham J. Baldwin, (Member) (San Bernardino Office).
Timothy D. Lucas, (Member) (San Diego Office).
J. Luis Garcia, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, July 29, 1959;
admitted to bar, 1986, California; U.S. District Court, Central District of
California. Education: University of Southern California (B.A., cum laude,
1981); Loyola Marymount University (J.D., 1984). Chairman, Social Services
Commission, City of Whittier. Member: Los Angeles County and
Mexican-American Bar Associations; State Bar of California. Languages:
Spanish. Practice Areas: Automobile Accidents and Injuries; Civil
Litigation; Employment Litigation.
Siedow & Associates Investigations
& Custom Legal Support Services
2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
La Crescenta (Los Angeles area), CA 91214
CA Lic. PI #22852
Need economical legal help?
From: John Huheey [mailto:JHuheey@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:21 AM
Subject: [infoguys-list] Prepaid Legal Services
I think Bill's comments regarding prepaid legal services are very cogent.
He isn't trying to stone anyone for making a little cash selling the plans,
he's trying to alert potential users to the real problems that exist when
you rely on these plans for legal defense.
In real life, when you need a lawyer, you don't need some generalist who
will write a few letters or make a few blustery calls... you need someone
who is an expert in a particular field, and I have yet to see anything in
any of these prepaid legal plans that guarantee the client that they will
pay for expert outside counsel - that is someone who knows how to litigate a
specific issue (constitutional tort, copyright infringement, etc).
Listen to Bill's advice, he never speaks unless he has something to say
(like Mr. Ed).
Secure Systems Group, Ltd.
Ohio PI License 2003008162
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